2666 GROUP READ - Part 4 DISCUSSION THREAD ***Possible SPOILERS***
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2Yells
This book reads like a literary casebook - at least this section. Each paragraph was about yet another poor woman who died, how she died, where she was found and a recount of the mutiliation that she endured.
At this point, I will finish because I am curious about how it all ends but honestly, if this wasn't on the 1001 Books List, I would have given up long ago. Paragraphs that drag on for eight pages, long wordy descriptions about things that really don't seem to be part of the story and explicitly graphic explanations about sex & rape etc. are not the makings of a good book for me. He does write well, I will give him that, and that is really the main reason why I keep going.
Is Savage Detectives like this?
At this point, I will finish because I am curious about how it all ends but honestly, if this wasn't on the 1001 Books List, I would have given up long ago. Paragraphs that drag on for eight pages, long wordy descriptions about things that really don't seem to be part of the story and explicitly graphic explanations about sex & rape etc. are not the makings of a good book for me. He does write well, I will give him that, and that is really the main reason why I keep going.
Is Savage Detectives like this?
3StevenTX
Is Savage Detectives like this?
Yes and no. The title can be misleading. There are no detectives in it and little that could be called savage--no rapes that I can recall, and only a small amount of violence. It is about two poets. At one point they are in search of another poet, but for the most part they are in search of themselves. It is told entirely through the eyes of those who knew them, not the poets themselves, in a sort of documentary style. But like 2666, The Savage Detectives can seem pointless at time, and there are long digressions into the experiences of secondary characters.
For those who may not know, the crimes in 2666 are based on real and still unsolved murders in the of Ciudad Juárez, which Bolaño fictionalized as Santa Teresa.
Yes and no. The title can be misleading. There are no detectives in it and little that could be called savage--no rapes that I can recall, and only a small amount of violence. It is about two poets. At one point they are in search of another poet, but for the most part they are in search of themselves. It is told entirely through the eyes of those who knew them, not the poets themselves, in a sort of documentary style. But like 2666, The Savage Detectives can seem pointless at time, and there are long digressions into the experiences of secondary characters.
For those who may not know, the crimes in 2666 are based on real and still unsolved murders in the of Ciudad Juárez, which Bolaño fictionalized as Santa Teresa.
4lkernagh
I finally finished Part Four - The Part About the Crimes - earlier this weekend. Below is the brief blurp I have posted on my thread:
At 283 pages, Part Four reads like a stand alone book, in keeping with Bolano's idea before his death that each part should be sold as a separate book. Part Four is more of a chronological, rambling police procedural that drones on and on and on about murder victim after murder victim after murder victim. Bolano's writing style continues to make it easy to move through the pages but the endless murder victims and the overall police/political indifference to what was happening started to get to me after a while. Bolano could have easily cut 100 to 150 pages from this part and still presented the same in-depth descriptions of the various crimes, the community of Santa Teresa and the politics. I can only hope that the last part - Part Five - will finally bring some closure to this story of stories, but I need to take a break and read something different before I continue with this one.
I agree that this part, more than the first three parts, struck me as more pointless since we never do make much progress. Since these crimes are based on real and still unsolved crimes that I guess it makes sense that Bolano doesn't present any real sense of closure in Part Four. like Danielle, I do like Bolano's writing style but I need to take a break before I venture into Part Five. I am still aiming to finish this book this month......
At 283 pages, Part Four reads like a stand alone book, in keeping with Bolano's idea before his death that each part should be sold as a separate book. Part Four is more of a chronological, rambling police procedural that drones on and on and on about murder victim after murder victim after murder victim. Bolano's writing style continues to make it easy to move through the pages but the endless murder victims and the overall police/political indifference to what was happening started to get to me after a while. Bolano could have easily cut 100 to 150 pages from this part and still presented the same in-depth descriptions of the various crimes, the community of Santa Teresa and the politics. I can only hope that the last part - Part Five - will finally bring some closure to this story of stories, but I need to take a break and read something different before I continue with this one.
I agree that this part, more than the first three parts, struck me as more pointless since we never do make much progress. Since these crimes are based on real and still unsolved crimes that I guess it makes sense that Bolano doesn't present any real sense of closure in Part Four. like Danielle, I do like Bolano's writing style but I need to take a break before I venture into Part Five. I am still aiming to finish this book this month......
