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2beelzebubba
Good grief.
3stellarexplorer
Oh for crying out loud! Why don't they pass a law allowing children to breathe in school?
4darrow
Senate sponsor Bo Watson of Hixson says he’s heard from teachers who don’t know how to respond to students’ questions about scientific theories.
What? Just tell them the truth.
What? Just tell them the truth.
5WholeHouseLibrary
The truth? THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
6Citizenjoyce
As for the legislation possibly opening the door for religious doctrines, Watson said he doesn't expect that to happen.
We simply need to teach all the scientific sides of the issue. The earth may be the center of the universe. That's not a religious doctrine, just another scientific possibility.
We simply need to teach all the scientific sides of the issue. The earth may be the center of the universe. That's not a religious doctrine, just another scientific possibility.
7richardbsmith
More fodder for you. Just saw this.
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/23/oklahoma-opens-the-door-for-creationism-...
http://www.addictinginfo.org/2012/03/23/oklahoma-opens-the-door-for-creationism-...
8clamairy
WTF? I've noticed in all of these cases there is a 'Republican controlled legislature' behind these new bills/laws. Do they really believe this creationist bullshit themselves, or are they just trying to keep the unwashed & obviously uneducated masses happy?
12kassetra
My dream is that these teachers actually show students how to correctly identify weak/straw men/fabricated/appeals to authority arguments, anecdotal evidence and non-scientific babble/number-fudging as *non-scientific* .... because the bill says they are supposed to do that... so what if they actually *DID IT*?
That's the day I would LAUGH.
That's the day I would LAUGH.
13pinkozcat
I am not an American and the Prime Minister of my country is an athiest. Fundamental religion, whether it be Fundamentalist Islam or Fundamentalist Christianity really scares me.
I can't believe that in this day and age there are people who believe, and live by, writings created hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
I can't believe that in this day and age there are people who believe, and live by, writings created hundreds and hundreds of years ago.
14gilroy
/Begin Sarcasm
Oh Please Senator! I don't know how to think! Please legislate me something to protect me from that evil of personal responsibility and thought!
/end sarcasm
Oh Please Senator! I don't know how to think! Please legislate me something to protect me from that evil of personal responsibility and thought!
/end sarcasm
15majkia
And while you're at it, make sure my neighbors aren't allowed to think either. They might confuse me!
16yapete
After a heated discussion about God, Hell and Damnation, our fundamentalist neighbor told my wife that her problem is that she is "too intelligent". Apparently, stupidity is a virtue.
17LolaWalser
Now that's a conversation-stopper.
18Jesse_wiedinmyer
Reminds of the discussion I'd had with a fundamentalist Christian I'd known following an argument she'd had with her daughter. Daughter was in tears, mother purple-faced with rage as she screamed "I don't care, I don't care. I'm right and she's just being willfully disobedient."
I took the mother aside and asked her, "Hey, do you think there might be some sort of similarity between your father's behavior (who had disowned her for marrying a black man) and your response (fuck you, this is my life and I get to make my own choices) and what's occurring with your daughter now (No daughter of mine will leave my faith/fuck you, this is my life and I get to make my own choices)?"
"No," she said, "This is entirely different. My father was wrong and I'm right."
I wasn't quite sure where to go from there...
I took the mother aside and asked her, "Hey, do you think there might be some sort of similarity between your father's behavior (who had disowned her for marrying a black man) and your response (fuck you, this is my life and I get to make my own choices) and what's occurring with your daughter now (No daughter of mine will leave my faith/fuck you, this is my life and I get to make my own choices)?"
"No," she said, "This is entirely different. My father was wrong and I'm right."
I wasn't quite sure where to go from there...
20Meredy
>16 yapete: "Apparently, stupidity is a virtue."
This book says it all and says it well: Idiot America, by Charles P. Pierce.
This book says it all and says it well: Idiot America, by Charles P. Pierce.
21AsYouKnow_Bob
Famously, Santorum thinks education is an enemy of religion.
22Lunar
#21: Well, it's not uncommon for the supporters of the public education system to argue that if we didn't have public schools, then we'd be plagued with parents indoctrinating their children with their religious beliefs. So I don't think the right-wingers are alone in viewing children's minds as the battleground between education and religion.
23CliffordDorset
I have to admit that it defies Darwinism that so many US citizens have survived natural selection for so long. Maybe it's just that in the UK their equivalents just keep their mouths shut!
24paradoxosalpha
> 22
I confess that's not an argument I hear among my fellow supporters of public education, nor is it one I would offer.
I confess that's not an argument I hear among my fellow supporters of public education, nor is it one I would offer.
25ed.pendragon
>21 AsYouKnow_Bob:
Famously, Santorum thinks education is an enemy of religion.
Do you know, he may well be right. (Though not necessarily in the Middle Ages.)
Famously, Santorum thinks education is an enemy of religion.
Do you know, he may well be right. (Though not necessarily in the Middle Ages.)
27EricJT
>16 yapete:
I fear "too clever by half" is still a term of abuse in England.
I fear "too clever by half" is still a term of abuse in England.
28ed.pendragon
"Students think too much" is a phrase I heard bandied around in the 60s. Well, by at least one person.
29marq
Just another example of America's obsession with religious secularism (paradox intended).
Student: What is the purpose of the human heart?
Teacher: umm - sorry, I have to consult a constitutional lawyer before answering.
Student: What is the purpose of the human heart?
Teacher: umm - sorry, I have to consult a constitutional lawyer before answering.
30Sandydog1
This old but very famous scientific lecture always, always brings tears to my eyes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g
31Nicole_VanK
Is Monkey Bill anything like Buffalo Bill?
(Sorry!, couldn't resist).
(Sorry!, couldn't resist).
32jimroberts
#21, AsYouKnow_Bob: "Famously, Santorum thinks education is an enemy of religion."
He has divine support: Jesus in Matt 18 v 3, "Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." "As little children" = ignorant and gullible.
He has divine support: Jesus in Matt 18 v 3, "Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." "As little children" = ignorant and gullible.
33CliffordDorset
Of course education is an enemy of religion. Any of your brain cells is an enemy of religion!
34tomcatMurr
so is this a comedy or is it a tragedy? Do we laugh uproariously at the stupidity or weep bitterly?
36ed.pendragon
Myself, I'm weeping uproariously.
37Sandydog1
And lookee here, what's goin on in Lawsiana!
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/15/louisiana-governor-ive-got-no-problem-with...
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2013/04/15/louisiana-governor-ive-got-no-problem-with...
38Citizenjoyce
And I think biology class should teach that babies are found under cabbage leaves. Some people believe that. What are we afraid of that we don't want to teach all sides of controversial ideas?