"Monkey Bill" passes in Tennessee.

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"Monkey Bill" passes in Tennessee.

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2beelzebubba
mar 21, 2012, 10:17 am

Good grief.

3stellarexplorer
mar 21, 2012, 11:46 am

Oh for crying out loud! Why don't they pass a law allowing children to breathe in school?

4darrow
mar 21, 2012, 11:49 am

Senate sponsor Bo Watson of Hixson says he’s heard from teachers who don’t know how to respond to students’ questions about scientific theories.

What? Just tell them the truth.

5WholeHouseLibrary
mar 21, 2012, 6:08 pm

The truth? THEY CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

6Citizenjoyce
mar 28, 2012, 4:30 pm

As for the legislation possibly opening the door for religious doctrines, Watson said he doesn't expect that to happen.

We simply need to teach all the scientific sides of the issue. The earth may be the center of the universe. That's not a religious doctrine, just another scientific possibility.

8clamairy
mar 28, 2012, 9:14 pm

WTF? I've noticed in all of these cases there is a 'Republican controlled legislature' behind these new bills/laws. Do they really believe this creationist bullshit themselves, or are they just trying to keep the unwashed & obviously uneducated masses happy?

9yapete
mar 28, 2012, 9:32 pm

They believe it. They are rich rednecks.

10clamairy
mar 28, 2012, 9:49 pm

Sweet cheeses. :o/

11yapete
mar 28, 2012, 10:15 pm

12kassetra
mar 29, 2012, 3:19 am

My dream is that these teachers actually show students how to correctly identify weak/straw men/fabricated/appeals to authority arguments, anecdotal evidence and non-scientific babble/number-fudging as *non-scientific* .... because the bill says they are supposed to do that... so what if they actually *DID IT*?

That's the day I would LAUGH.

13pinkozcat
mar 29, 2012, 4:29 am

I am not an American and the Prime Minister of my country is an athiest. Fundamental religion, whether it be Fundamentalist Islam or Fundamentalist Christianity really scares me.

I can't believe that in this day and age there are people who believe, and live by, writings created hundreds and hundreds of years ago.

14gilroy
mar 29, 2012, 7:28 am

/Begin Sarcasm

Oh Please Senator! I don't know how to think! Please legislate me something to protect me from that evil of personal responsibility and thought!

/end sarcasm

15majkia
mar 29, 2012, 8:01 am

And while you're at it, make sure my neighbors aren't allowed to think either. They might confuse me!

16yapete
mar 30, 2012, 4:53 pm

After a heated discussion about God, Hell and Damnation, our fundamentalist neighbor told my wife that her problem is that she is "too intelligent". Apparently, stupidity is a virtue.

17LolaWalser
mar 30, 2012, 4:57 pm

Now that's a conversation-stopper.

18Jesse_wiedinmyer
mar 30, 2012, 5:01 pm

Reminds of the discussion I'd had with a fundamentalist Christian I'd known following an argument she'd had with her daughter. Daughter was in tears, mother purple-faced with rage as she screamed "I don't care, I don't care. I'm right and she's just being willfully disobedient."

I took the mother aside and asked her, "Hey, do you think there might be some sort of similarity between your father's behavior (who had disowned her for marrying a black man) and your response (fuck you, this is my life and I get to make my own choices) and what's occurring with your daughter now (No daughter of mine will leave my faith/fuck you, this is my life and I get to make my own choices)?"

"No," she said, "This is entirely different. My father was wrong and I'm right."

I wasn't quite sure where to go from there...

19yapete
mar 30, 2012, 5:06 pm

#17 It was.

20Meredy
mar 30, 2012, 11:48 pm

>16 yapete: "Apparently, stupidity is a virtue."

This book says it all and says it well: Idiot America, by Charles P. Pierce.

21AsYouKnow_Bob
mar 31, 2012, 12:33 am

Famously, Santorum thinks education is an enemy of religion.

22Lunar
mar 31, 2012, 2:21 am

#21: Well, it's not uncommon for the supporters of the public education system to argue that if we didn't have public schools, then we'd be plagued with parents indoctrinating their children with their religious beliefs. So I don't think the right-wingers are alone in viewing children's minds as the battleground between education and religion.

23CliffordDorset
mar 31, 2012, 3:51 pm

I have to admit that it defies Darwinism that so many US citizens have survived natural selection for so long. Maybe it's just that in the UK their equivalents just keep their mouths shut!

24paradoxosalpha
mar 31, 2012, 4:57 pm

> 22

I confess that's not an argument I hear among my fellow supporters of public education, nor is it one I would offer.

25ed.pendragon
apr 1, 2012, 8:58 am

>21 AsYouKnow_Bob:
Famously, Santorum thinks education is an enemy of religion.

Do you know, he may well be right. (Though not necessarily in the Middle Ages.)

26majkia
apr 1, 2012, 9:27 am

well, education is certainly an enemy of religions that demand their followers not think.

27EricJT
apr 8, 2012, 10:09 am

>16 yapete:
I fear "too clever by half" is still a term of abuse in England.

28ed.pendragon
apr 8, 2012, 11:40 am

"Students think too much" is a phrase I heard bandied around in the 60s. Well, by at least one person.

29marq
Redigerat: apr 9, 2012, 9:40 am

Just another example of America's obsession with religious secularism (paradox intended).

Student: What is the purpose of the human heart?
Teacher: umm - sorry, I have to consult a constitutional lawyer before answering.

30Sandydog1
apr 6, 2013, 12:04 pm

This old but very famous scientific lecture always, always brings tears to my eyes:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGrlWOhtj3g

31Nicole_VanK
apr 6, 2013, 3:12 pm

Is Monkey Bill anything like Buffalo Bill?

(Sorry!, couldn't resist).

32jimroberts
apr 7, 2013, 1:36 pm

#21, AsYouKnow_Bob: "Famously, Santorum thinks education is an enemy of religion."

He has divine support: Jesus in Matt 18 v 3, "Except ye be converted, and become as little children, ye shall not enter into the kingdom of heaven." "As little children" = ignorant and gullible.

33CliffordDorset
apr 17, 2013, 2:05 pm

Of course education is an enemy of religion. Any of your brain cells is an enemy of religion!

34tomcatMurr
apr 20, 2013, 3:58 am

so is this a comedy or is it a tragedy? Do we laugh uproariously at the stupidity or weep bitterly?

35Amtep
apr 20, 2013, 5:02 am

Combine the best of both: laugh bitterly.

36ed.pendragon
apr 24, 2013, 7:04 am

Myself, I'm weeping uproariously.

37Sandydog1
maj 2, 2013, 8:28 pm

38Citizenjoyce
maj 3, 2013, 2:02 am

And I think biology class should teach that babies are found under cabbage leaves. Some people believe that. What are we afraid of that we don't want to teach all sides of controversial ideas?

39DanAllosso
maj 3, 2013, 8:04 am

It's turtles all the way down. No controversy there...