Should No Image Available covers be flagged?


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Should No Image Available covers be flagged?

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Redigerat: jul 31, 2013, 9:31 am

If someone has uploaded a cover image that is some generic image with "No Image Available" typed on it, should that be flagged as not a cover? I'm feeling ambivalent, because technically speaking, it's not a cover, but if the uploader had a cover, they would have uploaded it in the first place. I know cover flags don't really do anything now, but I don't want to mess up somebody else's information should the flags ever serve a larger function, and I totally understand wanting some way to mark books for which one does not have the correct cover. (Personally, I use the burgundy blank cover, but to each their own.)

jul 31, 2013, 9:32 am

Absolutely. Even when the feature is fully implemented, it won't affect the user that uploaded it, and ... it's not a cover.

jul 31, 2013, 9:33 am

Yes. We had a similar discussion when cover flagging was first introduced about placeholder images (there's a user who has uploaded a picture of a cat for all the covers where she didn't have an image, since LT won't let you upload your own default cover), and the consensus then was to flag as not-a-cover.

jul 31, 2013, 10:31 am

Okay, it's flagged. Thanks!

jul 31, 2013, 12:46 pm

Absolutely, it's just clutter. No image available is one thing, that can happen. But creating a cover image that says "no cover image" is obviously in itself no cover image - it actually even says so.

jul 31, 2013, 12:53 pm

That's why I use different colored blank covers to denote various things in my library (black = unread, dark green = my edition is part of an omnibus or collected works, burgundy = my cover has not been uploaded). I can give myself at-a-glance information without cluttering up everybody else's cover image page.

jul 31, 2013, 12:56 pm

Ah, no, don't get me wrong. To each his / her own. But something that expressly states it's "no cover" is obviously not a cover.

jul 31, 2013, 1:01 pm

What I mean is, there are ways to denote "no cover" without adding non-cover images.

jul 31, 2013, 1:14 pm

Ah, okay. Well you can either choose one of the standard covers, or upload such a cover as we described. There is no real problem with uploading such non-covers.

So I guess we may have a misunderstanding there. Quite apart from the fact that cover flagging isn't actually doing anything as is: as I understand it it's not supposed to delete / suppress / etc. any of those covers. It's merely supposed to be some method to halt "bad" covers being offered to other users. (And I've seen way worse than what you mention: Grimm's Fairy Tales don't equate those by Anderson, let alone the KJV bible - even if some person, probably joking, suggested it might be)

Redigerat: jul 31, 2013, 1:19 pm

P.s.: so, anyway, either way - us possibly flagging a cover picture does NOT mean we think you're a terrible person. It simply means we think the cover doesn't cover the book (and then there is a voting system, etc.).

jul 31, 2013, 1:22 pm


Agreed, and to go farther: It doesn't even mean we think you shouldn't be able to use that image as a "cover" on your own personal copy. It just means we don't want to see it suggested as a potential cover for others.

jul 31, 2013, 2:56 pm

Oh, no, I'm not uploading "non-cover covers" for my books where there isn't a cover uploaded already; I mean that I use different selections from among the LT-provided default covers to mean different things in my library. Therefore, it's not necessary for all these non-covers to be uploaded, when there are already "LT approved non-covers" that can be used.

>11 lorax: I agree; I don't care what people put on their own books, but it is frustrating when I add a book and have to wade through all these covers that aren't even relevant just to try to find a cover that matches my copy of the book.

Redigerat: aug 6, 2013, 3:00 pm

This might have been answered elsewhere but I didn't find it. It's not really the subject of this thread but we have cover-flagging mavens here, so I thought, Why start a new thread for what is probably a dumb question...

Is an anthology cover considered a proper cover image for a story contained therein? A story that is not published stand-alone but is merely catalogued here as {short story} -- is it ok for the cover image of some anthology or collection that happens to contain it (but does not use it as its title-piece) to be put up as the story's cover?

I would think not, but I dunno, do I?

aug 6, 2013, 11:44 am


That work's a mess, it has the short story (Screwjack) and a collection containing it (Screwjack and Other Stories) all mixed up together. I'd fix the combination problem first and then see if the cover issue persists.

aug 6, 2013, 12:54 pm

It doesn't help that the most popular ISBN is for a collection entitled "Screw-Jack" which contains that story and two others, but Amazon has titled "Screwjack: A Short Story". Another case of really bad data from Amazon.

aug 6, 2013, 1:41 pm

Actually I didn't mean Screwjack -- that's an accident of my use of square brackets -- forgot it would touchstone. This is the story/anthology cover that inspired my question:

aug 6, 2013, 1:55 pm

Ah, okay. But returning to the original question: how could any "cover" that specifically bothers to say it's not a cover be a cover? (It's fine for a temporary solution if you choose it though* - again: flagging doesn't mean we think you're an awful person).

* Or whatever: "temporary" isn't exactly a defined fragment of time.

But "No Image Available" clearly identifies that it's not a cover image.

aug 6, 2013, 2:16 pm


Ah, gotcha. I think in that case, if the "Not a cover for this work" flag worked as intended, flagging it would be fine; I don't remember whether the bug that meant that flag also showed up on uses of the cover where it was appropriate was fixed or not.