Dorian Gray: First impressions
Bara medlemmar i LibraryThing kan skriva.
Denna diskussion är för närvarande "vilande"—det sista inlägget är mer än 90 dagar gammalt. Du kan återstarta det genom att svara på inlägget.
Ooops, thought YouTube had the whole movie up there for free, but they've taken it down. You can rent it for a couple bucks.
(Edited to correct link)
(Do people really not care that everyone in the room knows their personal business? The gentleman who was talking to someone about paying his bill claimed to be at work, which about 20 of us knew he wasn't. Sheesh.)
So, I'll give it another start when I have fewer distractions. The style of language needs more concentration that I was able to give it.
"And Lord Henry flung himself down on the divan and opened his cigarette-case." (Chapter 2)
"Lord Henry flung himself into a large wicker arm-chair and watched him." (Chapter 2)
"The hot tears welled into his eyes; he tore his hand away and, flinging himself on the divan, he buried his face in the cushions, as though he was praying." (Chapter 2)
"As the door closed behind them, the painter flung himself down on a sofa, and a look of pain came into his face." (Chapter 2)
"Then he lit a cigarette and flung himself down on the sofa." (Chapter 4)
"He flung himself down on the sofa and turned away his face." (Chapter 7)
"He threw himself into a chair and began to think." (Chapter 7)
"Then he rose from the table, lit a cigarette, and flung himself down on a luxuriously cushioned couch that stood facing the screen." (Chapter 8)
"He went towards the little, pearl-coloured octagonal stand that had always looked to him like the work of some strange Egyptian bees that wrought in silver, and taking up the volume, flung himself into an arm-chair and began to turn over the leaves." (Chapter 10)
"'What is it all about?' cried Dorian in his petulant way, flinging himself down on the sofa." (Chapter 12)
"Then he flung himself into the rickety chair that was standing by the table and buried his face in his hands." (Chapter 13)
"He sent him to bed, and threw himself down on the sofa in the library, and began to think over some of the things that Lord Henry had said to him." (Chapter 20)
I'm about 47% through the novel according to the Kindle. I was bored at first by the over-the-top descriptions and endless chatter and thought I wouldn't enjoy the book. I Googled up a little on Oscar Wilde and aestheticism and found that interesting. With a little more background, I went back to Dorian Gray and as I read on I find myself being drawn in.
We are just starting and I have to say I love books that make you take the time to read them like this. People don't talk the way they used to and they don't write the way they used to either. There is something in communication that is lost when we make everything so casual and short. A great example of that is Sleepy Hollow on TV. Ichabod is from back in the days of the Boston Tea Party, flung into the here and now. He is flummoxed by a lot of what we say, but learns quickly, however he is also teaching the others to think about what they say. If you have not seen this show, it's worth it, just to hear him leave voice mail messages as if they were real mail and talk to people through NorthStar as if they were there in the room with him.
Phone message here:
There is nothing like the piling up of words from the olden days, in my opinion. I just love it and I can't wait to dive into this book for this reason above all else. :)
I am reading this with no prior knowledge of the author, only a basic idea of the plot.
Will you share you run favorite character? I'm definitely tired of Lord Harry!
Did anyone read the unabridged version? Since I got a free kindle one for my iPad, I'm sure it wasn't. Was the homosexuality blatant?
>31 Danean: "None of the characters are garnering much sympathy from me"
>33 TooBusyReading: "what a bunch of twits"
For me, a novel has to have some other outstanding aspect if it's going to make up for a dearth of admirable characters. I can't think what that outstanding aspect of Dorian Gray might be. Novel insights into the human condition? No. Masterful use of the language? No. It's appeal escapes me.
When I mentioned the sources that Wilde "seemed to be using while writing chapter 11", I was apparently being too generous. That he copied verbatim from various books on embroideries, tapestries, gemstones, etc., is apparently well-documented, in particular in the OUP edition of his complete works.
I wonder whether “fist impressions” is quite the right approach for pre-discussion? Seems that along with discussion after the fact, it’d be helpful to have guides along the way, especially when the book is a classic and outside the experience of modern readers. Perhaps a thread with opportunity for people who know something to say “this is important because...” or “look for this...”. I realize that some people prefer to read a novel uncontaminated by any commentary, but they could avoid such a thread.
I am reading on Kindle and listening to Michael Page. He does a nice job. I think there should be a special edition audio with Charlie Brown's teacher reading chapter 11.
LOL re chapter 11 being read by Charlie Brown's teacher!! Thanks for the smile!
You are welcome for the smile! It is much needed for chapter 11.
By the end, I'm glad I read it and I can see why he's been called a genius of an author. Sadly, I pretty much guessed everything that would happen. As for the portrait and Dorian, I found Edgar Allan Poe's story more haunting.
I also had to keep reminding myself that Harry and Basil were not older men.
But then think about it. I remember being 19 and having an older friend. She was so nice to me...and she was 24.
Another case, perhaps, of Wilde "getting" more than we readers credit him for?
Overall though, I did enjoy the book. I kinda trudged through the first half but couldn't put it down after I got to the middle. Definitely glad I read it.