Hieroglyphs - study

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Hieroglyphs - study

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1drj
aug 31, 2018, 4:02pm

Is anyone interested in studying how to read AE hieroglyphs? I have been on a 2 week tour of Egypt this year visiting archaeological sites and learned that the secrets of the universe are on the walls of temples (the tomb writings are aimed at getting the person to their version of heaven).

2seshenibi
nov 17, 2019, 4:39pm

I know this is an old topic, but just in case anyone else comes past here is some information. The "standard" book is Egyptian Grammar by Gardiner, but it is out-dated in terms of the grammatical coverage; a much more modern book is Middle Egyptian Grammar by Hoch, but it also has some problems and is far less comprehensive. You should also try to have access to Faulkner's Concise Dictionary of Middle Egyptian. Some decent easy reading texts can be found in the Egyptian readingbook by De Buck.

3Nicole_VanK
Redigerat: nov 17, 2019, 11:51pm

I found James P. Allen's Middle Egyptian very useful too.

4seshenibi
nov 18, 2019, 4:46pm

We used Allen (along with Hoch) when I did the first year in Middle Egyptian, but I thought that there were some major issues with it (for example, he introduces the syntax of pronouns in chapter 5 but doesn't discuss the semantics of the various kinds of pronouns until much later on - this is partly because he introduces the morphology of verbs so late, I think). It might be much better as a modern reference grammar (because Gardiner is very old-fashioned) than a teaching grammar, but I'm not really advanced enough in the subject to be able to say anything intelligent about that! A lot of the problems would be solved, I think, if chapter 26 (the summary of the grammar) was moved to much earlier in the book as that's where a lot of the stuff (like the pronouns, and the verb forms) is tied together.

The sign list in Allen is also not as useful as the one in Gardiner, I've found.

On the other hand he must be doing something right because I've ordered his Middle Egyptian Literature book!

5Nicole_VanK
Redigerat: nov 19, 2019, 9:23am

>4 seshenibi: You definitely have a point about the order in which it is presented.

(And Egyptology is not my field. I merely dabble. I understand more about their art and architecture than about their language.)