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OT: Nice and affordable alternatives to Folio

1RRCBS
nov 18, 2019, 4:34pm

As discussed on another thread, for this interested, could we start a list of affordable but quality books (sewn bindings, acid free paper)?

I personally only know of LOA and Everyman’s Library. I use these to supplement my FS/EP/LEC collection, and sometimes even prefer the Everyman’s volumes for their size and feel for reading.

2Uppernorwood
nov 18, 2019, 4:47pm

Everyman’s are great value for the price and do feel good in the hand, I’m a big fan. The PG Wodehouse collection is particularly addictive!

3DMulvee
nov 18, 2019, 5:04pm

I’m more of a Everyman devotee and use the Folio to supplement this. The Wodehouse Collection is excellent - 99 volumes with slightly different colour spines that look great on a bookcase!

I have a few of the McMillan Collectors Library though feel they are a little smaller than I would like

4RRCBS
nov 18, 2019, 5:09pm

>2 Uppernorwood: >3 DMulvee: I love the Wodehouse collection! They’re addictive, especially since they’re only about $20 per volume! Have all the Jeeves, Blandings and Psmith volumes and Piccadilly Jim...will probably buy some others eventually.

5vmb443
nov 18, 2019, 6:22pm

Agree wholeheartedly with the comments on the Worhouse - I have been tempted to pick up the Folio editions but then I look at them on my shelf and feel there’s no need!

6jsg1976
nov 18, 2019, 6:30pm

I like the Calla Editions imprint by Dover Publications. They have a limited selection (mostly facsimiles of older titles, some of which have also been done by FS), but I have a half dozen or so of their titles, and have been impressed with the quality. Most have sewn bindings - not sure about acid free paper. Here’s the blurb from their website:

Calla Editions™ — Books of Distinction for the Contemporary Bibliophile
This premium imprint features impeccable hardcover reproductions of some of the most beautiful books ever published. Filled with breathtaking artwork and other deluxe features, each Calla Edition recalls a time when bookmaking was considered an art form.

I’d also recommend Fall River Press. I’ve only got a couple of their books (Dracula illustrated by Edward Gorey, and Frankenstein illustrated by Lynd Ward), and I don’t think they’re even publishing any more, but they have sewn bindings, and seem to be of good quality also.

Both Calla Editions and Fall River Press books are pretty cheap too, so the quality to cost ratio is good

7folio_books
nov 19, 2019, 4:52am

>2 Uppernorwood: Everyman’s are great value for the price and do feel good in the hand, I’m a big fan. The PG Wodehouse collection is particularly addictive!

I collect Folio books only but I confess to making an exception for the Everyman Wodehouse - lovely little books. Of course I have all the Folios as well.

8davelin
Redigerat: nov 19, 2019, 12:37pm

Anyone have experience with the Oxford World's Classics?

Edit: Nvm, just watched a video saying that they are glued, not sewn.

9MobyRichard
nov 19, 2019, 1:12pm

Loeb for Greek and Roman classics

10NLNils
nov 19, 2019, 1:53pm

>9 MobyRichard: Sewn hardcovers but the printing (on demand) is atrocious for the price.

11MobyRichard
nov 19, 2019, 5:17pm

>10 NLNils:

I think that reply was for post #8?

12NLNils
nov 20, 2019, 4:20am

>11 MobyRichard: No, I meant the Loeb published books.

13joco30
Redigerat: nov 20, 2019, 9:34am

>10 NLNils:

Not every Loeb is sewn bound. Some are glued. Luckily I have a bookshop in the neighborhood that always has all of them in store, so I can check the binding before buying.
But are they printed on demand? I doubt it. As far as printing is concerned, there's a difference between their older books that are just reprinted/copied and new translations or new revisions.

Thames & Hudson has very, very high quality books for a very decent price.

Books of Yale University Press are also of high quality. Most of them are sewn bound. As long as you go for the HC version. After some time, if they get reprinted, most of them are reprinted only as paperbacks.

14terebinth
nov 20, 2019, 12:16pm

It's by no means the first time they have been mentioned here, but as newer members may not have come across them Slightly Foxed Editions seem worth a place in this thread:

https://foxedquarterly.com/products/slightly-foxed-editions/

They're delightfully produced little volumes, almost identical in size to the original (1900s-1940s) Everyman's Library format.

15Willoyd
nov 21, 2019, 3:54am

>14 terebinth:
I was just listening to the latest podcast on the train home last night, which reminded me of the SF books to post here, when I see you beat me to it! Can only agree wholeheartedly. I have a run of their limited edition books (not very limited!) from 1-36 (I stopped then partly as they fit a shelf nicely!), and a set of the Ronald Welch series. As you say, they are delightfully produced.
As part of my retiral cutbacks on subscriptions etc, I stopped my SF magazine sub at edition 60 (I have started rereading them all - very enjoyable), but have decided that I actually do miss them very much, so have just resubscribed. (That was the plan - see what I genuinely missed and then resubscribe if I did - this is the only one I can say that I have done).

16Eastonorfolio
nov 21, 2019, 11:59am

> 14 terebinth:

I'll second that. Slightly Foxed editions are very beautiful and well made. Just watch their video "Birth of a Book", and you will see the quality that goes into it.
They also produce the Rosemary Sutcliff "The Eagle and the Ninth" series.

17MobyRichard
Redigerat: nov 21, 2019, 2:59pm

>12 NLNils:

Never seen a Loeb print on demand option. But then I don't order from them directly. Use Amazon.
I also never order new so I usually end up with older printings/editions.

18RRCBS
nov 21, 2019, 3:17pm

>15 Willoyd: Does SF produce any fiction other than some children’s fiction?

19Willoyd
nov 21, 2019, 3:47pm

>18 RRCBS:
No they don't - just the memoirs and the SF Cubs, which now include the Ronald Welch, Denys Watkins-Pitchford ('BB') and Rosemary Sutcliffe books.

20TheEconomist
dec 1, 2019, 9:43am

>18 RRCBS: SF did publish John Moore's Brensham Trilogy (numbers 26, 34 and 42), which blur the boundaries between fiction and non-fiction.

21Willoyd
dec 5, 2019, 12:37pm

>20 TheEconomist: Don't know about John Moore, but isn't that true of a lot of memoirs? Cider with Rosie for instance?

22Kisa_Vorobyaninov
dec 9, 2019, 8:12am

Also collect Everyman's Wodehouse and SF. I really enjoy the Peanuts collection published by Canongate https://canongate.co.uk/collections/good-grief-charlie-brown/ and Gollancz's Terry Pratchett's Discworld series.

23RRCBS
dec 10, 2019, 10:59am

Does anyone have any of the Discworld Collector’s Library books? How do they favour in comparison to, say, Everyman’s Library?

24folio_books
dec 10, 2019, 11:46am

>23 RRCBS: Does anyone have any of the Discworld Collector’s Library books?

I have the first eighteen volumes of what I believe was called the Unseen Library edition (Discworld 1-18, The Colour of Magic to Maskerade). First thing to say is they are not Folio quality. Quarter leather binding, decent-ish printing. decent-ish paper, coloured map endpapers, ribbon marker but no illustrations. They were promoted as a luxury edition of Discworld and some of them can be pricey on the secondary market but apparently the series wasn't successful enough to warrant progressing beyond the eighteenth volume.

I also collected the Everyman Wodehouse and I'd say purely in terms of quality of production Everyman has the edge (though not by too much) even taking into account their lack of leather.

25RRCBS
dec 10, 2019, 12:48pm

Thanks! I was actually referring to this series:

https://www.discworldemporium.com/21-the-discworld-collector-s-library

26HuxleyTheCat
dec 10, 2019, 12:53pm

>25 RRCBS: I had a few of those in work - nothing special as far as I remember, basically paperback quality with a hard cover. The Unseen Library edition, as mentioned by Glenn, is a much nicer quality although not much use for completists.

27RRCBS
dec 10, 2019, 12:54pm

>26 HuxleyTheCat:, disappointing! Thanks for the info!

28TheEconomist
dec 10, 2019, 2:00pm

>21 Willoyd: "Don't know about John Moore, but isn't that true of a lot of memoirs? Cider with Rosie for instance?"

It's a fair point, but I would nonetheless suggest that it is more true of the Brensham Trilogy than it is with most other memoirs. If you google the Brensham Trilogy, you will see that the books are often, if not usually, described as novels, whereas I cannot remember seeing CwR ever being put in that category.

29folio_books
Redigerat: dec 10, 2019, 2:10pm

>26 HuxleyTheCat: The Unseen Library edition, as mentioned by Glenn, is a much nicer quality although not much use for completists.

Yes, indeed. The Discworld Library, I have to say, looks comparatively underwhelming. It might have been nice if BCA had finished what they'd started but I think they lost their way,

Edited to add: I should perhaps have said I'd never heard of the Discworld Library before.

30SF-72
Redigerat: dec 10, 2019, 2:37pm

I've got one book in the Discworld Library Edition and would say it's an average book, nothing special. I really don't like the cover designs either. That being said, they are very affordable and a nice size, so I'd say they're a nice alternative to paperbacks, but nothing more.

Something else: It really looks like there will be an edition like the recent one of Good Omens for one of the Discworld novels, probably Guards! Guards! sometime soon, at last judging by Paul Kidby's newsletter. If that sells well they might continue the series, who knows.

31kdweber
dec 10, 2019, 3:32pm

>30 SF-72: "It really looks like there will be an edition like the recent one of Good Omens for one of the Discworld novels, probably Guards! Guards! sometime soon, at last judging by Paul Kidby's newsletter. If that sells well they might continue the series, who knows."

I hope not. Don't get me wrong, I love my Occult edition of Good Omens but it's huge. A 34 book set of Discworld in this format would take an enormous amount of shelf space. I've got 9 books from the Unseen Library Edition, the 2 Folio editions (wish those had been continued) and 6 trade hardbacks.

32SF-72
dec 10, 2019, 4:12pm

>31 kdweber:

Same here. I would love nice, normal-sized editions with Kidby's illustrations, but if Good Omens is anything to go by, you'll only get the complete set of illustrations with the extra-large and not the regular editions. That's one thing for a single novel, but something completely different for a series like Discworld with regard to shelf space. And books this size are also rather uncomfortable to read, at least for me. Still, it looks that way since he showed an illustration and mentioned collecting ideas for something like the extras that came with the ineffable edition of Good Omens.

As for Folio's editions: I like the size and quality, but wasn't that happy with the illustrations. Still, I would have enjoyed it if they'd continued the series.

33wcarter
Redigerat: dec 11, 2019, 5:52pm

Faber produce a small number of collector's editions for their members. They are nicely produced books, only slightly below FS standard editions in quality. You have to be Faber member to purchase, but that is free, and there are lots of perks, particularly if you reside near London.
See here.

34Cat_of_Ulthar
dec 12, 2019, 3:58pm

>22 Kisa_Vorobyaninov:
Canongate's Peanuts series is lovely but it's only fair to note that they are reissues under licence of the original Fantagraphics volumes.

Will the Fantagraphics 'Peanuts on Sunday' or 'Pogo' volumes get picked up in a similar fashion. They are things of beauty.

:-)

35Czernobog
Redigerat: dec 12, 2019, 4:09pm

Is anyone subscribed to Powell's Indiespensable program? I like the idea but would prefer a UK alternative for various reasons.

36kdweber
dec 12, 2019, 5:22pm

>35 Czernobog: I've subscribed to Powell's program for years. The books aren't any nicer, just standard trade hardbacks with a signature page tipped in and a nice slipcase added.

37olepuppy
dec 12, 2019, 10:10pm

Two oop series of books I've enjoyed are the Adventure Library and the Ash Tree Press.

Adventure Library consists of 30 nonfiction volumes published in the '90's and a bit later about mountaineering, aviation, polar ang general exploration, sea journey, even kayaking the length of the Amazon. The books are solidly constructed, smyth-sewn with acid free paper, and are nicely sized at roughly 8.5x5.5. Some have signed page added, like my copies of A Short Walk in the Hindu Kush and K-2 by Houston and Bates. Two stories I was happy to be introduced to were West With the Night, read cover to cover in one sitting, a true joy, and No Picnic on Mount Kenya, where some bored WWII prisoners of war decide to escape temporarily to climb a mountain. Many of the books can be found in fine condition for 5-10 bucks, and a couple times I found a group of 10-15 for a hundred.

I discovered Ash Tree Press a few years back when I won an Ebay LEC auction for a very low price, so I checked out the seller's other offerings , mostly china and knickknacks, but also a group of horror and ghost stories by people I'd never heard of. I tried a few and they are well made books with cloth covers but can be a bit expensive because print runs seem limited to 500-600. I want to try the 'occult detective' series at some point. A small amount of research shows writings from the late 1800's to the mid 1900's. Although I did not sample them, the proprietors of AT also published Calabash Press titles, stories about Sherlock Holmes.

38RRCBS
dec 13, 2019, 6:12pm

For those who collect SF books, what are your thoughts on the Welch novels? I’m interested in buying either this set or the BB set. Online reviews are hard to gauge. Would ideally just buy one books but thinking of the set partly in case I start collecting and they sell out. Are they good books? Do they transcend the boy’s adventure novel genre?

39Andrew14
dec 14, 2019, 4:01am

Up to now, I have read half of the original twelve novels - Road to Waterloo and Sun of York got added later to the collection by the Foxes. This is a bunch of very, very delightful adventure stories, perfectly bound and beautifully presented with all their original illustrations (something I absolutely root for). The stories are told in a very straightforward manner, the kind of style that feels just a teensy bit old fashioned but not in the least outdated.

Each book is garnished with not too much history and easily digestible information about contemporary weaponry (which was Welch's forte). Be warned, though, time traveler: These stories unashamedly aim at boys as a readership, to the same extent that some books of that era aimed singularly at girls. If you can live with that, give it a try – I just cannot recommend this wonderful collection enough, it's one of my most prized possessions!

40bookofcalm
dec 18, 2019, 5:15am

I am a total sucker for slipcased books, so I love when Penguin or Faber do a slipcased edition of a book.
I do collect Slightly Foxed, Library of America, and Everyman's (as for the wodehouse, I have about 60 of them but some have been proving very difficult to find new). I don't care for leather books but I collect the faux-leather franklin mystery series. For offbeat weird beautiful books I would really recommend Gwen Frostic https://www.gwenfrostic.com/ her books of poetry and observations on the natural world were self-published from the 50s-90s and sell for criminally low prices. If you like nature poetry and handmade style books, they are really lovely. Definitely for a certain type of person though (me!).

The ultimate crazy person behaviour is now I'm starting to collect a set of books and then make my own slipcase for them. I'm hoping it will pass!

41RRCBS
dec 18, 2019, 5:26am

>40 bookofcalm: neat about the slipcases! Let us know how that goes!

I have the Jeeves, Blandings and Psmith books from the Wodehouse set, and a few others such as Piccadilly Jim...are they all good reads? This is a general question for everyone.

42c_schelle
dec 19, 2019, 3:27pm

>40 bookofcalm: Do you already have any results? There was another thread a while back where somebody said he started making some.

I have had a slipcase made for one of my books by a local book binder. It turned out quite nice, but it was quite expensive. I would love to try to build one myself, but I don't really have time for that (or the workspace, but I could use my fathers workshop).

43Glacierman
Redigerat: dec 19, 2019, 4:01pm

>40 bookofcalm: "The ultimate crazy person behaviour is now I'm starting to collect a set of books and then make my own slipcase for them. I'm hoping it will pass!"

Not so crazy, really. And not difficult, just takes some time to construct one. Good instructions for making one can be found in Aldren Watson's Hand Bookbinding.

44kdweber
dec 19, 2019, 5:12pm

>40 bookofcalm: There are also some nice YouTube videos with clear instructions on making slipcases. I'm not particularly handy but I've successfully made over two dozen slipcases. Make sure you use acid free supplies (cardboard, paper, and glue). I bought my supplies from Talas in NY.

45Glacierman
Redigerat: jan 19, 2020, 6:31pm

>44 kdweber: TALAS is an excellent source!

46Twas_Brillig
jan 18, 2020, 8:18am

Faber & Faber partnered with liberty fabrics to provide two very nice symth sewn copies of milkman and the bell jar for an incredibly reasonable £14.99 - not illustrated but highly recommended

https://www.faber.co.uk/books/liberty-editions.html

47DMulvee
jan 19, 2020, 2:30am

>41 RRCBS: I think that the PSmith and Blandings works are the best. The quality does vary in the other works (and two of the books are almost identical with slightly changed names, I am guessing one was published in the US and then some time later the other in the U.K.). If you like Wodehouse’s world and style of writing I think that you would gain enjoyment from the others

48RRCBS
jan 19, 2020, 5:10am

Thanks to those who recommended Slightly Foxed...I went on a SF buying binge around the end of last year and love them! So far I have read The Real Mrs Miniver, which was very good, and My Grandmothers and I, which I absolutely loved.

49MobyRichard
Redigerat: feb 4, 2020, 4:02pm

If you want to get really old school, Colonial Press published quite a few classics circa 1900-1901. Octavo, buckram bound, letterpress on good paper. Illustrated with examples of fine printing throughout the ages, so not strictly relevant to the text but a nice bonus.
My favorite is their two volume Spirit of the Laws (Montesquieu). Most of their books go for $10 to $20 on ABE. Exclusively non fiction though, from what I recall.

50RRCBS
feb 4, 2020, 12:03pm

Received my first Faber member book...I think I’ve been really spoiled by FS, because I’m really disappointed. It feels to me like a slightly nicer hardcover, though it does at least have a sewn binding.

51MobyRichard
feb 20, 2020, 2:01pm

I didn't know this, but apparently the Everyman 'Divine Comedy' includes the Botticelli illustrations...very nice.

52cpg
feb 24, 2020, 10:11am

>13 joco30:

As a specific example of joco30's claim that Yale University Press's books are of high quality, Yale just released a Calculus-book-sized edition of The Essential Works of Thomas More. It's got a sewn-binding and sharp printing. Comparing it to FS books (or, for that matter, to a Calculus book) makes the $100 price tag seem low.

53Lilysfx
mar 31, 2020, 3:52am

I actually rather like the look and size of the Gollancz book, and was terribly disappointed with the quality of the binding. It's rather frustrating, really why can't there be a set of nice, complete, normal sized not-too-fancy Pratchett :c

54RRCBS
maj 17, 2020, 2:39pm

Does anyone have feedback on the Picador Modern Classics books? I see that they have sewn bindings from an old comment. What about the overall reading experience? How do they compare to, Everyman’s Library or Slightly Foxed books? They have some interesting titles.

55johnbean9
maj 17, 2020, 10:24pm

The First Edition Library is worth looking into (https://www.bookthink.com/0068/68fel.htm). They have been OOP for a while and are valued by many for being faithful reproductions of first editions of well-known titles. I own two that I purchased off eBay for not much. They are well made (nothing remarkable, but sturdy) with acid-free paper, and slipcases, and they look great on my shelf.

56RRCBS
maj 25, 9:19am

I was wondering if anyone collects the Pocket Poets and can comment on whether they’re sewn or glued? The website says sewn but some Pontus reviews show glued ones...I know they went through a period where some books were glued, but unsure whether this set is generally supposed to be sewn.

57red_guy
maj 25, 10:22am

>56 RRCBS: The Everyman Pocket Poets are indeed sewn, have good paper, a marker ribbon and in every way are up to the normal Everyman standard. Well worth collecting!

58dyhtstriyk
Redigerat: maj 25, 12:15pm

>56 RRCBS: Everyman's main line, Wodehouse collection and pocket editions (the ones with the 'Stories of the Sea', 'Bedtime Stories' etc. titles) are printed in Germany and Smyth Sewn. Pocket Poets are not smyth sewn, but I think the printer is the same.

EDIT: I saw the reply exactly above mine >57 red_guy: said they were sewn. I have not seen them live in a while but I recall seeing non smyth sewn editions. They may have changed though.

59RRCBS
maj 25, 12:44pm

>58 dyhtstriyk: thanks.... decided to order a couple and see...fingers crossed

60red_guy
maj 25, 1:17pm

Sorry, I picked a couple at random and they were sewn. However, having got them all down, I see that Rilke and Baudelaire are perfect bound, whereas Poe, Hopkins, Herbert and Marvell are sewn. >56 RRCBS: I do apologise. I think it must be the newer printings.

61dyhtstriyk
maj 25, 2:05pm

>60 red_guy: Interesting, thanks for letting us know. Do you by chance have the Tennyson one?

62red_guy
maj 25, 2:17pm

>61 dyhtstriyk: Sorry, no. Only the Folio Poets one (which is way too big). In the Pocket Poets defence, they are small enough that the ones that aren't sewn do open perfectly flat without any trouble, and the paper is still good.

63RRCBS
maj 25, 2:58pm

>60 red_guy: Thanks...there are many that I want (Byron, Hardy, Pope for example). Will just order and hope they come sewn, otherwise return!

64mad_yosemite
maj 25, 3:04pm

“Pocket Poets
Pocket clothbound volumes from the world's greatest poets, and with a stunning range of anthologies. Each volume has an elegant jacket, full cloth sewn binding, silk ribbon marker and headbands, with gold stamping on front and spine and decorative endpapers. In size, price and presentation they make ideal gifts and are a joy to read and collect. More than eighty titles in print.”

I found this on the Everyman’s website. But despite being in the US for some reason I only have access to the UK site so I don’t know if this applies to US bindings. Here’s the link: http://www.everymanslibrary.co.uk/pocket-poets.aspx

65whytewolf1
maj 25, 4:03pm

>64 mad_yosemite: I looked through that website a while back, and it is unclear to me whether or not it's actually been updated in recent years even.

66mad_yosemite
maj 26, 7:29pm

I just received my Everyman’s Pocket Poets copy of the poems of Robert and Elizabeth Browning. It is a glued binding. Since the binding isn’t high quality I am going to stick with the higher quality content of a Penguin or Oxford classic.
In defense of the Everyman’s Poets they are aesthetically pleasant and the prices are decent.

67RRCBS
maj 26, 7:34pm

>66 mad_yosemite: I got mine too, will be returning it. Very disappointing.

68Frank_Zwolinski
Redigerat: maj 27, 8:42pm

Is Everyman’s Library available in the US or just the UK?

69RRCBS
maj 27, 9:18pm

>68 Frank_Zwolinski: It’s available in the US. Easiest way I’m aware of is ordering via Amazon.

70RuefulCountenance
Redigerat: maj 27, 11:23pm

Det här meddelandet har tagits bort av dess författare.

71Frank_Zwolinski
maj 27, 11:18pm

>70 RuefulCountenance: Well, I am not skilled at these things but using that link and then going to the link for pocket poets takes me to a warning page for Adobe Flash Player and no further. Any thoughts?

72RuefulCountenance
maj 27, 11:24pm

>71 Frank_Zwolinski: I came across that page when looking for a US option and now I see it says the site is not secure so I deleted my post.

73DMulvee
maj 28, 2:57am

>68 Frank_Zwolinski: Everyman’s Library is available in the US and U.K. The American versions are printed in the US, whilst those available in the U.K. are printed in Germany. There have been a few instances where the Us version was glued but the German was sewn.
Most titles are available in both regions but there are a few that are only available in one due to copyright reasons

74cpg
maj 28, 11:46am

>73 DMulvee:

See:

https://www.librarything.com/topic/140034#3527196

which is admittedly 9 years old. It's possible that the U.S. library referred to ordered its books from the U.K., but it seems unlikely to me.

75abysswalker
maj 28, 2:25pm

>73 DMulvee: I might be misremembering, but I thought it was the other way around. In any case, I think all of the full size Everyman’s Library titles are now sewn, and I believe the full size glued titles were a temporary anomaly due to miscommunication with a printer that the company corrected. I have bought a number of Everyman’s Library titles in both the US and Canada, and I’ve never personally come across a glued book. I have no experience with the smaller form factor poets series though.

On their web site, they also state that all paper used is acid-free. Everyman’s is one of the few trade imprints where I still feel like I can have some confidence in basic quality standards.

(Tangent: Everyman’s Library has been a subsidiary of Random House, a US firm, since 2002.)

76abysswalker
maj 28, 2:33pm

(I just checked the five Everyman’s Library North American editions I had close to hand, and all were printed and bound by GGP Media GmbH in Germany on paper specified as alkaline and have sewn bindings.)

77Frank_Zwolinski
Redigerat: maj 28, 3:09pm

I just ordered one of the poets books, here in the US and will report what I find when it arrives.

78DMulvee
Redigerat: maj 29, 5:13am

>74 cpg: >75 abysswalker: I have the full set of the post 1991 Everyman Classics and Contemporary Classics (404 volumes). I *think* I have either 1 or 2 that might be glued (these were released about 10 years ago?). I always buy the German published version unless the book was only released in the US (e.g The Bell Jar). I had read a few people having issues with these but thought these were US versions as my copies were fine.
I have the complete Everyman Wodehouse (99 volumes) these are all sewn, but just 42 of the Children (again all sewn).
Some of the versions that have seen issues are from the Pocket Poets set. I don’t own any of these and can’t comment on their quality.

Edited to add: Thanks for the link to the earlier thread. I did read this. Some of the works mentioned were re-issues (I think) which might be why I wasn’t impacted. I definitely have at least one (but I am thinking two) that were glued.

Edited: Accurately give number of Everyman

79Frank_Zwolinski
maj 29, 1:09am

I am looking for some afforable, but beautiful, and well made editions of Agatha Christie and would appreciate any suggestions.

80Willoyd
maj 29, 2:56am

>78 DMulvee:
I have the full set of the post 1991 Everyman Classics and Contemporary Classics (about 405 volumes).
Wow, that's some collection. A lot more than currently in print it seems - I worry that they appear to be slimming down.

81DMulvee
maj 29, 5:16am

>80 Willoyd: As long as it is at least 6 a year, I think that is ok. Annoyingly they seemed to pretend they were releasing the Great Gatsby in January this year (it was released in 1991), so I do hope this was an anomaly and that the my won’t start using reprints and pretending these are new additions

82behemoththecat
maj 30, 4:15am

Waterstones has a double points offer on this weekend if anyone is looking to buy Everyman’s, Penguins or other decent copies from there. Online as well as in store!

83Son.of.York
jun 3, 8:09am

>71 Frank_Zwolinski: , 72

The Everyman's US website that I find useful is http://knopfdoubleday.com/imprint/everymans-library/

If you select Pocket Poets from the Choose a Series dropdown at the upper right, you'll see that collection.

84Frank_Zwolinski
jun 15, 1:31am

I contact Everyman's Library and they informed me that, "all their books are sewn EXCEPT the Pocket Poets Series which is too small," and thus glued. I did purchase a few and they appear quit sturdy.

85Frank_Zwolinski
jun 15, 7:35pm

I just received my first volume in the EL Children's Classic series, "Heidi" and would like others' opinions. While described as a hardback, the covers seem very thin and flexible to me, not even as heavy as a traditional Trade Book, do you folks feel the same? How have they held up with time? Are all Everyman's Library volumes fitted with these thin covers, or something better? At last they are sewn bindings, tat least, that's a positive. Th book is attractive, easy to read print and reasonably nice paper considering the affordable price.

86DMulvee
jun 16, 4:53am

>85 Frank_Zwolinski: My Children’s Classics seem solid. I could bend the cover if I wish (but I could also bend the cover of the FS book I am currently reading if I wished!). They are all similar whether there are 80 pages or 400.
They are thinner than a traditional trade book, but none of mine have any damage so they seem sturdy enough

87Frank_Zwolinski
jun 16, 9:28pm

>86 DMulvee: Thank you for this, but I would like to clarify. This book is slightly stiff but the cover is nowhere near the weight of a Folio Society book cover. Perhaps I need to buy another and check it out. I bought mine from Amazon in the US. Do you happen to have "Heidi?"

88RRCBS
jun 16, 9:39pm

>87 Frank_Zwolinski: I personally find the children’s series to be not as well made as the regular. That being said, even with the regular series, they are a lot lighter than a Folio. I love the regular series, then the stories collection and Wodehouse…children’s a definitely a step down.

89abysswalker
jun 16, 10:11pm

>87 Frank_Zwolinski: all my recent standard Everyman's editions have thinner and more flexible (cloth-covered) "hard" covers compared to most other hardcovers. They are high-quality and durable though.

90DMulvee
jun 17, 3:54am

>87 Frank_Zwolinski: I have Heidi (as well as many other children’s classics). I’ll have a look tonight. They are not particularly thick, you are correct and as RRCBS states the Everyman Wodehouse are definitely thicker (twice as thick?). I’ll do some measuring and report back later today

91Petrichory
jun 17, 6:51am

I have lots of the Children’s Everymans, but can’t currently find any of the adult ones to compare, sorry :-)
I would say the sides don’t feel especially flimsy to me, but you could bend them if you tried hard. My pet peeve is that the gold flakes off all the time, but even with this flaw they are lovely books - a nice size to hold and often with lovely illustrations.

I’ve never tried to post pictures here before, so apologies if this fails, but i’ve Uploaded a couple of shelf pics to my gallery to show the effect.

92abysswalker
Redigerat: jun 17, 11:35am

>91 Petrichory: you used something close to the gallery page URL in your image tag rather than the URL of the image itself. You can generally get the image URL in most browsers by right-clicking on the image and choosing an option to copy the image location (in Chrome: right-click and then Copy Image Address).

Here is the image inline you were trying to display:



The code to get the above image to display here is:

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(I added the "width" attribute myself, just because it is good practice for displaying images in this forum.)

93abysswalker
Redigerat: jun 17, 11:42am

>91 Petrichory: "the gold flakes off all the time"

This also happens to some degree with the main line of Everyman's books. It doesn't really bother me because A) the cost is relatively modest, B) I buy them as reading copies, C) the dust jacket spines look nice enough on the shelf, and D) the designs for the main line books have much less stamping/gilding on the cloth to begin with.

It does wear pretty consistently though. I have a copy of the Everyman's Library edition of Thomas Mann's Joseph and his Brothers. After one complete reading, there is noticeable wear (only to the stamped design, not to the book as a whole, which is quite sturdy). This is a thick book that was not a quick read, but still a useful data point.

94DMulvee
jun 17, 12:00pm

I tried flexing (a little) the Heidi cover and it doesn’t seem that sturdy, I then tried on other children’s classics and they are all similar. However when I do the same on the Everyman classics they also do this!

I have seen flaking of the gold from the children’s classics but never from the main Everyman series. When reading the FS Atlas Shrugged there was significant bleeding from the red on the cover when I held it, however my Thomas Mann in the Everyman is fine (my dustcover remains in this which could be the difference?)

95abysswalker
jun 17, 12:31pm

>94 DMulvee: probably. I take dust covers off when I read, usually, and my Mann book did make several plane flights with me.

96ironjaw
jun 18, 5:29am

I like the Everyman’s. They are affordable, small and easy to amass a collection without sacrificing shelf space. But I do love my folios. What I find worrisome is when and eventually I will have to move into a house. That will be difficult with the sheer weight of the folios compared to the Everyman’s.

97RRCBS
jun 18, 9:03am

>96 ironjaw: I fee the same about EL and FS…lately I have been “upgrading” some of my EL’s to FS versions. I do actually generally prefer Everyman’s for reading, but love the design of Folios. My husband is starting to worry about the number of bookcases we have and the rate of accumulation though!

98Frank_Zwolinski
jun 18, 4:16pm

>94 DMulvee: Thank you for checking your Children's series. That flexibility is likely why the gold flakes. I am trusting that these books will last and therefore continue my purchases, even though I would prefer a more sturdy cover. I should note that I am in the US and have been buying from Amazon. Yesterday I realized that my "Heidi" had a remainder mark on the bottom of the pages, which was a bit distressing, but it was easy enough to send back an get a refund, but an irritant to do, (it is over 100 degrees today here). I also reordreed a new copy last night and will check carefully when it arrives.

99alsocass
jun 18, 9:49pm

Is this the place to ask about thoughts on the Chiltern Publishing books?

I just stumbled across them, and they look gorgeous, and priced so reasonable ($15 each from a reputable online store).

But it is strange to see their facebook page talk about them being stocked at places like 'Urban Outfitters', which makes me think it is on one of those tables full of over-priced decorations.

Any thoughts, because $300 for 20 beautiful classic books isn't a bad deal.

100Petrichory
jun 19, 9:34am

>92 abysswalker: Gosh, thank you! Knew i’d mess it up somehow.

101Frank_Zwolinski
jun 19, 11:18pm

Hello all,
I did receive a copy of Dracula today and now I am clear about the weight of the covers. For some reason EL decided to make the Children's series with thinner covers. But since several folks have said that the books dDO hold up well, I will continue buying. Thank you to all who offered advice.

102cpg
jul 2, 5:42pm

Today I was just made aware of the Noll Library published by "Our Sunday Visitor". The publisher's website has this photo of its volumes stacked up:

Amazon has two reviews of the Imitation of Christ volume. One says: "This is a beautiful book, well made and a pleasure to read. The binding is durable, and it seems like it'll hold up well over many years. The print is crisp, utilizing a nice, easy to read font". The other says: "The book is not too small, the print is sharp and easy on the eyes, and the binding is good."

Is there anyone here who has seen these volumes in real-life and can comment on them? Do they have sewn bindings?

103chrisrsprague
jul 2, 7:33pm

>102 cpg: I haven't seen these, but I'm definitely interested. It's past time for better options than the cheap paperback reprints that TAN churns out.

104behemoththecat
jul 7, 3:38am

Any recommendations for Russian literature? I know Everyman’s do a few but other than them I am not sure.

105vmb443
jul 7, 2:40pm

>102 cpg: I have the St. Francis de Sales - they are glued, but I would agree, they are nice books, certainly a step above what you usually see for these works, as >103 chrisrsprague: points out. They appear to be bound in buckram (at least that's what it feels to me, but my technical knowledge isn't all that great) - the type is easy to read, the paper is a bit smooth, but not at all glossy. They appear to have reset the type (not a photocopy of previous editions) All in all it's a nice book. Folio quality? No, but definitely a step up from mass market paperbacks and hardbacks.

106chrisrsprague
jul 7, 6:43pm

>105 vmb443: I'd be curious to know which translations were used.

107vmb443
jul 8, 9:02am

>106 chrisrsprague: It doesn’t give a name for the translator- it says the translation is from the Christian Classics Ethereal Library, which appears to be an online free library, but that gives no indication as to the translator.

108terebinth
jul 8, 9:33am

>107 vmb443:

Seems it's the same translation used in the Penguin/Random House edition, first published apparently anonymously by Rivingtons, London, in 1876.

109chrisrsprague
jul 8, 9:57am

I've found the old, commonly used public domain translation of Confessions to he too archaic.

110amp123
jul 8, 8:09pm

Calla Editions was mentioned earlier as a good reasonably priced alternative to FS. I think a good example of this is their edition of The War of the Worlds. It contains over 50 of the original illustrations from the serial publication in Pearson's Magazine but uses the text of the novel as it appeared in book form. Wells had made numerous revisions, including an entirely new chapter and a heavily revised epilogue, when editing the book for publication. As the Calla note states, theirs is the first time the preferred revised text has been printed with all of the original serialization illustrations, a very FS-ish thing to do. The clothbound boards, with foil stamped cover illustration and lettering is another plus. At a list price of $30 it seems well worth it.