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post-Julio-Claudian ancient Roman Empire

1janerawoof
dec 16, 2020, 1:31pm

Please can someone recommend novels set in post-Julio-Claudian ancient Roman Empire? The novels can be in either English or German. Thank you.
Jane

2thorold
dec 16, 2020, 2:27pm

If you’re including Byzantium, how about Count Belisarius by Robert Graves?

3spiphany
dec 16, 2020, 3:03pm

There used to be a pretty comprehensive database ("Fictional Rome") that was sortable by era. Unfortunately it seems to have disappeared and the parts that can be accessed through archive.org don't include the period information.

You could look here for ideas: http://www.hist-rom.de/
It includes some English titles as well as German, and some very old titles, and doesn't seem to have been updated for several years.

There's also generally a fair amount of information about recent German-language historical fiction at Histocouch, though they only have a general category for "Antike": https://www.histo-couch.de/epochen/14-antike/

I tend to be more interested in Greece than Rome, so I can't make any specific recommendations. The last relevant title I read was a truly terrible piece of writing set around the time of the eruption of Pompeii (translated from French -- I can't remember the title offhand, but I definitely do not recommend it).

4Helenoel
dec 16, 2020, 5:28pm

Ruth Downie has a series, beginning with Medicus set during Hadrian’s reign.
Lindsey Davis’ Falco series is set under Vespasian and Domitian. the silver pigs is the first in the series. Her Flavia Alba series follows, still under Domitian.
All are mysteries in the broad sense with leading character as investigator.

5Crypto-Willobie
dec 17, 2020, 11:24am

A God strolling in the cool of the evening by Mario de Carvalho. It's been translated into English, don't know about German.

6MarthaJeanne
dec 17, 2020, 11:58am

>5 Crypto-Willobie: "Other language titles
English : A God Strolling in the Cool of the Evening
German : Die Verschwörung des Rufus Cardilius
Portuguese : Um deus passeando pela brisa da tarde
Spanish : Un dios pasea en la brisa de la tarde

7Crypto-Willobie
dec 17, 2020, 3:18pm

>6 MarthaJeanne: Thanks, MarthaJeanne

8janerawoof
dec 25, 2020, 12:29pm

>4 Helenoel: Thanks. I've read all of them and it's one of my favorite series.

9janerawoof
dec 25, 2020, 12:33pm

>6 MarthaJeanne: Thank you. I've read and reread God strolling ... but I'll check out Verschwörung...
It looks like the last two titles are translations of #1. Well, the Portuguese is the original?

10janerawoof
dec 25, 2020, 12:35pm

>2 thorold: I have read this one, thank you anyway.

11MarthaJeanne
dec 25, 2020, 1:48pm

>9 janerawoof: If you've read the English is there any point in reading the same thing in German?

12karenb
Redigerat: dec 25, 2020, 3:10pm

Searching tags here on LT, I found Robert Fabbri's Vespasian series about, y'know, Vespasian. The tagmash of Vespasian + fiction brings up other authors, too.

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13mamzel
dec 28, 2020, 3:39pm

If you might consider a series that takes place during the first century BC, The Steven Saylor series featuring Gordianus the Finder was a great series whose characters included Cicero, Pompey, and Marc Antony among others. Gordianus is among my favorite protagonists.

14janerawoof
dec 29, 2020, 5:51pm

>11 MarthaJeanne: No, not really unless you want to see how it has been done.

15Crypto-Willobie
dec 29, 2020, 10:23pm

I suppose you've already read Julian by Gore Vidal?

16Crypto-Willobie
dec 29, 2020, 10:32pm

And perhaps Rosemary Sutcliff's Eagle of the Ninth series? These take place in the Roman province of Britannia roughly between 200 and 800 CE. Many, though not all, of the characters are Roman military or colonists or descended from them. A lot of Sutcliff's books are 'officially' categorized as children's or young adult novels but it's one of those cases of appealing to 'children of all ages'. The characterization and writing style are worthy of adult fiction.

17-pilgrim-
dec 30, 2020, 11:05am

>16 Crypto-Willobie: I would second that recommendation.

18nessreader
Redigerat: jan 28, 2:36am

Memoirs of Hadrian by Yourcenar? Originally french, translated into english for penguin. Or maybe Graves books I, Claudius and Claudius the God.
Also Gillian Bradshaw wrote several late Rome historic novels. She might be worth checking out.

19spiphany
jan 6, 8:56am

For a very unconventional take on third-century Roman Britain, you could try Bernardine Evaristo's novel-in-verse Emperor's Babe.

I enjoyed it a great deal, but you should be forewarned that the writing deliberately doesn't have a historical feel -- the author makes liberal use of contemporary colloquialisms and references and even anachronisms as part of her approach of reading history against the grain.

20usnmm2
jan 15, 12:49pm

>1 janerawoof: "Julian: A Novel" by Gore Vidal

21janerawoof
Redigerat: feb 25, 10:48am

>13 mamzel: I read the Gordianus the Finder series long, long ago, but thank you.

22DavidX
Redigerat: feb 25, 2:10pm

Actual 1st-2nd century literature can't be beat.

The Satyricon by Petronius (c. 27-66 AD)
The Golden Ass by Apuleius (c. 124-170)

And this modern one is very interesting.

Julian the Apostate aka "The Death of the Gods" by Dmitry Merezhkovsky (1895, tr. Herbert Trench 1901).

23Zambaco
feb 26, 12:03pm

>17 -pilgrim-: And me. I have just finished re-reading the Eagle of the Ninth series for the first time since I was a teenager, and I enjoyed them even more as an adult, especially The Silver Branch and The Lantern Bearers, which have an elegaic quality about them as the power of Rome gradually ebbs away from Britain.