Sound (as in "logically valid and having true premises" as opposed to simply auditory) Bites - Favor

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Sound (as in "logically valid and having true premises" as opposed to simply auditory) Bites - Favor

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1doogiewray
nov 19, 2006, 5:53 pm

So, just copy any line from Pynchon that struck you enough to underline it. If you feel brave enough, also share any of your own marginalia here (and why you wrote them (if you can remember)).

Here's one, just randomly selected, from page 105 of my own copy of Gravity's Rainbow (though it DOES seem fairly timely these days):

"Don't forget the real business of the War is buying and selling. The murdering and the violence are self-policing, and can be entrusted to non-professionals. The mass nature of wartime death is useful in many ways. It serves as spectacle, as diversion from the real movements of the War. It provides raw material to be recorded into History, so that children may be taught History as sequences of violence, battle after battle, and be more prepared for the adult world. Best of all, mass death's a stimulus to just ordinary folks, little fellows, to try 'n' grab a piece of that Pie while they're still here to gobble it up."

Douglas

"In the end, only kindness matters."

2tomcatMurr
jan 23, 2007, 7:59 am

You hide. They seek.

3Jargoneer
jan 23, 2007, 8:31 am

Reading that quote, my first reaction is, that's not a million miles away from material in Catch-22.

4tomcatMurr
jan 24, 2007, 12:15 am

yes, Heller is a pale substitute for Pynchon......

Here are some more Proverbs for Paranoids:
PfP 1: You may never get to touch the Master, but you can tickle his creatures.

PfP 2: The innocence of the creatures is in inverse proportion to the immorality of the Master.

PfP 3: If They can get you asking the wrong questions, they don’t have to worry about answers.

PfP 4: You hide, They seek.

PfP 5: Paranoids are not paranoids because they’re paranoid, but because they keep putting themselves, fucking idiots, deliberately into paranoid situations.

http://thelectern.blogspot.com/2006_09_01_thelectern_archive.html

5doogiewray
jan 24, 2007, 10:55 am

tomcatMurr-

Wow! I was just going to post those today! Is that weird, or what?

Anyhow, thanks for putting them up here. So, let me grab something else ... hmmm ... how about:

"The Middle East, cradle of civilization, may yet be its grave."

(on page 363 of my old paperback edition of V. - written around 40 years ago).

Douglas

"In the end, only kindness matters."

6doogiewray
jan 24, 2007, 11:05 am

tomcatMurr-

I just checked out your Lectern site and it looks really interesting and I'll read it soon whenever I get a bit more free time.

A second (in the space of five minutes) tiny example of synchronicity/coincidence happened when I called up your page (the first being our almost posting the same PfPs here).

One of your entries from the Lectern (on the same page as the PfPs) was from a Saint Iris(?): "Love is not a feeling. It can be tested. Love is action, it is silence."

Just before I posted the Middle East quote above, I almost posted, instead, Pynchon's "Love with your mouth shut, help without breaking your ass or publicizing it: keep cool, but care." (p. 342 of V.).

Douglas

"In the end, only kindness matters."