Just Pre-Ordered My Own Copy of Inherent Vice!

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Just Pre-Ordered My Own Copy of Inherent Vice!

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1doogiewray
Redigerat: jul 9, 2009, 4:39pm

From Amazon.

2chumofchance
jul 9, 2009, 5:50pm

Due for release in October, I believe? I'm working for guy who did his Master's thesis on Pynchon and he was surprised to discover that I, his home-improvement contractor, was reading V.
I'm going to pre-order IV soon!

3doogiewray
jul 10, 2009, 7:09am

They're stating an August 4th release with shipping estimate of August 10th.

4chumofchance
jul 10, 2009, 5:22pm

Yeah, your're correct. I actually took the time and looked it up after I posted. I'm looking forward to it, but I need to finish V. first. IV will probably be his last, you know...

5fetsch
Redigerat: jul 16, 2009, 11:30am

Publication date: TUESDAY, AUGUST 4th, 1970 L.A. TIMES: "Manson Guilty, Nixon Declares."" _or was it 2009?

Get ready for the LSD Investigations (Location, Surveillance, Detection).

Did I say that out loud?

6chumofchance
jul 10, 2009, 8:43pm

I won't tell anyone.

An interesting calendrical coincidence, I must say; but knowing Pynchon...

7fetsch
Redigerat: jul 15, 2009, 6:47pm

Another Coincidence:

"Back then it was always sandals, bottom half of a flower-print bikini, faded Country Joe and the Fish T-shirt.

*AUGUST 4th,, 1968 - Newport Pop Festival (Country Joe and the Fish ), Costa Mesa, California"

"It was Paul Kantner of Jefferson Airplane who first said: "If you can remember anything about the sixties, you weren't really there."

*AUGUST 4th, 1968 - Newport Pop Festival (Jefferson Airplane), Costa Mesa, California"

Both Country Joe and the Fish & Jefferson Airplane performed at the 1968 - Newport Pop Festival on.............. AUGUST 4TH.

Is it ironic or coincidence that they were both mentioned in Inherent Vice's Penguin Press Notes?

8fetsch
jul 14, 2009, 5:14pm

When you read Inherent Vice make sure you have some kick-ask Vietnamese weed, because you'll need it.

9chumofchance
jul 15, 2009, 5:51pm

This is getting better all the time.

"And it's one two three what are we fighting for..."
Don't ask.

IV's cover is going to clash with Mason & Dixons'.

Chum.

10fetsch
Redigerat: jul 15, 2009, 6:33pm

Yes, I'd have to agree. Inherent Vice's cover is quite different from Pynchon's other bookcovers.

11fetsch
Redigerat: jul 15, 2009, 6:33pm

12MMcM
Redigerat: jul 15, 2009, 10:29pm

The cover art for the major works was all over the place, it seems to me.

13chumofchance
jul 16, 2009, 1:06pm

...which prompts me to consider how a Japanese translation of Gravity's Rainbow would fare with a reading audience not accustomed to American idioms, especially as used by Pynchon. But this discussion is for another day, I suppose.

14doogiewray
aug 7, 2009, 8:12am

Just got my own copy of IV yesterday and am now on chapter 4. So far, it's a good romp and a great summer read. Neat to see that (as of this minute) there are 91 LibraryThing users that have the book in hand.

15chumofchance
aug 7, 2009, 7:39pm

I got mine on Tuesday, not expecting to see it out yet and so forth.

This will probably be the first novel I will have finished and then immediately re-read. I'm on Ch. 16, and I'm lovin' it. Doc has become one of my favorite literary characters, and unlike some of the other Pynchon novels, this one should find an entirely new audience.

16doogiewray
aug 13, 2009, 9:03am

Just finished IV last night. Never thought I'd ever do a whole Pynchon book in less than a week! It was a good and wild ride with a whole lot of characters, jokes, songs, memories to grin at. Not like V. or Gravity's Rainbow, where you go "Wow!" as you close the cover right after finishing, but, rather, "Well, that was sure fun!"

Dougls

"In the end, only kindness matters."

17chumofchance
aug 13, 2009, 6:55pm

Yep, it sure was fun! I actually laughed out loud a few times, an unusual reaction for me. I'm thinking of re-reading Mason & Dixon, may even start it tonight, since I told a friend I would lend him IV after I finished it. He was born in '74, so he might be lacking the proper "context" in which to fully enjoy this novel. He may have never even heard of Zappa.

18ateolf
aug 18, 2009, 2:36am

anyone else find it sadly mediocre?

19kswolff
aug 19, 2009, 10:20pm

It sounds a lot like The Big Lebowski

20fetsch
sep 27, 2009, 7:12pm

Hey man! the only thing "like" the Big Lebowski is Doc smokes weed and there's a missing person, that's it.

Like all of Pynchon's novels, they have many layers. As to those layers, Pynchon refuses to spoon feed the reader. If your engagement in reading Inherent Vice is as passive as staring at the TV, you'll miss those layers behind the surface story.

As to SEEing those deeper layers, I'll just say a few words to point you in the right direction:

"the map is not the territory, the word is not the thing"

remember Gummo Marx? remember John Garfield?

And what exatcly is the Inherent Vice of Pynchon's "Inherent Vice"? Ask Thomas Jefferson!

21kswolff
sep 30, 2009, 9:58pm

Active engagement in reading. Yep, that's what those Twilight readers must be doing instead of passively watching some drivel like The Sopranos

Since I haven't read Inherent Vice, I'll not raise to your cheap debating tactics.

Pynchon had his own opinions about the Tube. May I suggest reading his underrated epic Vineland

"Lebowski" has its layers as well, since it was written and directed by those Oscar-lauded hacks Los Bros Coen. It's not like its some Kevin Costner-helmed postapocalyptic epic about mailmen. The BFI series has a wonderful critical analysis of "Lebowski." It's worth picking up and reading. It's not even that long.

22fetsch
okt 30, 2009, 1:27pm

"cheap debating tactics"?

Read the book, man!

Here's a quote form Korzybski: “There are two ways to slide easily through life: to believe everything or to doubt everything. Both ways save us from thinking.”