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Het woud der verwachting av Hella S. Haasse
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Het woud der verwachting (urspr publ 1949; utgåvan 1980)

av Hella S. Haasse

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In this novel, set in the 15th century during the Hundred Years War between France and England, Hella Haasse brilliantly captures all the drama of one of the great ages of history.
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Titel:Het woud der verwachting
Författare:Hella S. Haasse
Info:Amsterdam : Querido; 577 p, 21 cm; http://opc4.kb.nl/DB=1/PPN?PPN=801819563 Twaalfde druk
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In a Dark Wood Wandering av Hella S. Haasse (1949)

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I can see why this is considered a classic in historical fiction writing. It follows the life of Charles, Duc of Orleans. It begins with the story of his parents and takes the reader through the last decades of the Hundred Years War and his capture after the battle of Agincourt. His life was so tragic. This novel did to me what I believe an excellent piece of writing should: engage my complete attention and sympathies, and then leave me with the desire to learn more about the characters. I am almost sorry it is finished! Except that I am on to my next reading adventure. ( )
  a1stitcher | Jun 22, 2019 |
I’ve always been interested in the period of the Hundred Years' War, the battle between France and England that inspired many stellar moments in Literature and Theatre. This book by Hella S.Haasse immediately attracted my attention (partly due to its beautiful cover) and it came highly recommended by esteemed Goodreads friends and many members of our community. Now, upon finishing this opus, I can say that I enjoyed it -at parts- but there were certain issues that prevent me from classifying it among the best Historical Fiction I’ve ever read.

The plethora of characters is certain to astonish you in the most positive way. One of the things that excite me in Historical Fiction is that most of us avid fans of the genre are accustomed to lists and lists of family names, dates and facts without being intimidated. When the authors understand this, they do not refrain from offering us a wealth of information. Haasse certainly follows this route. The reader comes across many historical figures that marked the era. Charles VI, le Bien-Aimé, le Fol, one of the most tragic and tormented monarchs in European History. Philip the Bold, Isabeau of Bavaria, Isabella of Valois, Jean the Fearless, and of course Charles d’Orléans, his mother Valentina Visconti and none other than Jeanne d’Arc, La Pucelle d'Orléans. A colourful cast of characters that will please even the most demanding readers.

The writing is rich and well-composed, the dialogue very faithful (presumably) of the era in which the story takes place. The letters, the hymns to the Virgin Mary for the protection of the country and the ballads embellish the narration and give a Chretien de Troyes flair. However, at this point, my main issue with the book is evident. It slowly starts reading as a History lecture rather than Historical Fiction. Now, I am an avid seeker of historical accuracy- sometimes, to the extreme- but I want an inspired kind of historical accuracy, a healthy combination between artistic license and facts. Here, Haasse loses momentum, and in my opinion, the novel becomes much slower and needlessly verbose after the halfway mark. There were instances when I was bored, genuinely bored and tired. I didn't want to skip pages (a personal faux-pas when I’m reading anything History-related) and therefore, my irritation grew. I felt I was reading dry, lifeless sentences. Paragraphs out of a university textbook.There was very little emotion, very little development.

Perhaps, it wasn’t Haasse’s writing, but the focus on Charles d’Orléans who is a rather dull character. Once the spotlight fell on him, I lost interest, plain and simple. I didn’t care how many times he would get married or about his endless interactions while in exile. In my opinion, he was a bad choice for a protagonist. A second issue had to do with the women of the story. I loved the rivalry between Valentine and Isabeau, it reminded me of the first cold interactions between Catelyn Stark and Cersei Lannister. Once this enmity is off the narrative, the remaining female characters are there only to look demurely away and at men or to give birth to heirs. Jeanne d’Arc was a great introduction in the story, but the author didn’t do her justice.

The book was published in 1949 and it shows. The lack of any important function for the majority of the female characters is dated, and I must be more of a child of my times than I thought. I am used to enjoy stories with strong, powerful women in power, not defined on their relationships with men but on their own abilities and, thankfully, there is a plethora of variety in the current Historical Fiction genre. There is a tricky issue when we encounter novels based on well-known historical facts. We all know the closure. Therefore, the journey must be exciting to make you care.In this case, the journey went wrong, although my expectations were high. Most likely, it’s my fault. I shouldn’t have read it after Rutherfurd's masterpiece, the comparison was unavoidable.

I don’t regret having read the novel, not in the least. I learned quite a lot of new facts about this turbulent era in European History and I came to know what seems to be an iconic book of the genre. The research is exhausting, the effort tremendous and beautiful. However, it will not enter my pantheon of Historical Fiction examples, it will not be memorable in my collection. And as I always try to be honest to myself, 3 stars is the most I can give.
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1 rösta AmaliaGavea | Jul 15, 2018 |
fan-tastisch boek, voor zij die van romantiek houden en geschiedenis als kader. De romantiek is evenwel hard vanwege ......de harde geschiedenis. Men voelt deernis voor de hoofdfiguren die lijden maar wat gedacht over het lot van de gewone lieden. ( )
  buchstaben | Feb 25, 2018 |
Prachtige tijdloze roman ( )
  H.Russer | Jul 15, 2017 |
This took me a while to get into, and it took me a while to work out why. I don't read a huge amount of historical fiction, but I do have some favourites: Dorothy Dunnett and Patrick O'Brian. But these are tales of adventure and romance set against vivid historical back-drops, incorporating historical figures and events, but primarily concerned with their own plots and characters. This is historical fiction that reads like non-fiction, more like a work of journalism that recreates scenes and events than a novel. It is a novel, of course, a superb one, and it is fictional, but its primary concern is an historical figure and the historical events he was part of. History may contain plots, but it isn't A plot. History is big, sprawling, rambling, unsentimental and only has shape in retrospect. In A Dark Wood Wandering is a rigorous examination of a person and his milieu, and an extraordinary feat of sympathetic imagination.

1494, Charles d'Orleans is christened in Paris. His father, after whom he is named, is brother to the king, and the king is suffering from spells of madness. The elder Charles is being drawn into a divisive conflict with the powerful and influential Duke of Burgundy, who is pursuing his own interests in the north of France, while Orleans tries to guide the king closer to the interest of France. Courtly and political intrigue and maneuver and counter-maneuvre consume the rivals. Lies and rumours drive Orleans' wife from Paris and the conflict slowly turns deadly.

Young Charles grows up blissfully until a terrible act thrusts him into adulthood too soon and lays a heavy burden of vengeance and blood feud on his youthful shoulders. Utterly unsuited to his leadership role, Charles is intelligent and dutiful, but lacks the edge of political and physical ruthlessness he needs to be truly effective. He cannot break free of the powerful personalities that control him and out-maneuver him. His sensitive poet's soul, which he denies, suffers horribly through tragedy and loss and dire efforts to retain his honour and fulfill his duty.

The cost of duty, the merciless demands placed on the powerful, the disintegration of a once-great country and the appalling suffering that ensues. This is far from the playful textual and semiotic literary games of Name Of the Rose. This is a serious, unflinching novel, that gradually accumulates an emotional and intellectual weight until by the final few hundred pages it is nearly impossible to stop reading. ( )
  Nigel_Quinlan | Oct 21, 2015 |
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En la forêt de Longue Attente Chevauchant par divers sentiers M'en vais, cette année présente, Au voyage de Desiriers. Devant sont allés mes fourriers Pour appareiller mon logis En la cité de Destinée ; Et pour mon cœur et moi ont pris L'hôtellerie de Pensée..................................................................................................Dedans mon Livre de Pensée, J’ay trouvé écrivant mon cœur La vraie histoire de douleur, De larmes toute enluminée, -------------------------------Charles d'Orléans
In het woud van Lang Verwachten te paard op pad, dolenderwijs, zie ik mijzelf dit jaar bij machte tot Verlangens' verre reis. Mijn knechtstoet is vooruitgegaan om 's nachtverblijf vast te bereiden, vond in Bestemming's Stad gereed voor dit mijn hart, en mij ons beiden, de herberg, die Gedachte heet. .................................................................................................................In 't boek van mijn gepeinzen al vond ik dan, schrijvend, mijn hart; het waar verhaal van bitt're smart verlucht met tranen zonder tal.
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In haar met groene gordijnen omhangen staatsiebed luisterde Valentine, hertogin van Orléans, naar het gebeier der klokken van Saint-Pol
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