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A Fire upon the Deep

av Vernor Vinge

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Serier: Zones of Thought (2)

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5,4631191,417 (4.11)3 / 197
Thousands of years hence, many races inhabit a universe where a mind's potential is determined by its location in space - from superintelligent entities in the Transcend, to the limited minds of the Unthinking Depths, where only simple creatures and technology can function. Nobody knows what strange force partitioned space into these 'zones of thought', but when the warring Straumli realm use an ancient Transcendent artefact as a weapon, they unwittingly unleash an awesome power that destroys thousands of worlds and enslaves all natural and artificial intelligence. Fleeing the threat, a family of scientists, including two children, are taken captive by the Tines - an alien race with a harsh medieval culture - and used as pawns in a ruthless power struggle. A rescue party, not entirely composed of humans, must free the children - and retrieve a secret that may save the rest of interstellar civilization.… (mer)
Senast inlagd avOrderMustBe, TheGalaxyGirl, alexdelarge, privat bibliotek, starcat, xopher, hhenry3, 100sheets
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  2. 30
    Blindsight av Peter Watts (electronicmemory)
    electronicmemory: Excellent hard sci-fi which contains concepts which will challenge your mind.
  3. 30
    A Deepness in the Sky av Vernor Vinge (timspalding)
    timspalding: Both are fantastic books.
  4. 20
    House of Suns av Alastair Reynolds (junkblocker)
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    Pandora's Star av Peter F. Hamilton (orange_epsilon)
    orange_epsilon: If you like reading about space travel and alien cultures, then this is the book for you.
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    Ancillary Justice av Ann Leckie (electronicmemory)
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    Lifelode av Jo Walton (sandstone78)
    sandstone78: What if the zones of thought were within walking distance of each other? Gods live in the East, time passes at a rapid rate in the West, and a stranger from each direction comes to the manor of Applekirk in the Marches between them.
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    Accelerando av Charles Stross (ahstrick)
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    The Mote in God's Eye av Larry Niven (tcgardner)
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In NPR's top 100 Sci-fi/Fantasy list this was one I'd been wanting to read for a while. The ideas presented in it were inventive and elaborate, but my difficulty in following them kept me from fully enjoying the story. After reading the wiki synopsis of the book upon completion, I realized how many small things I'd missed. Vinge doesn't talk down to his readers -- he lets them discover things for themselves -- but unfortunately I didn't read between the lines on a number of concepts, leaving me confused for far too long. I have a feeling I would enjoy this one a lot more on a second reading. ( )
  adamfortuna | May 28, 2021 |
Sci-fi heeft vele gezichten en wat Vernor Vinge laat zien is een indrukwekkend staaltje verbeeldingskracht. Vinge neemt zijn tijd (613 bladzijden) om niet alleen een spannend intergalactisch verhaal op poten te zetten maar ook een aantal werelden en rassen te creëren die fantastisch uitgewerkt zijn in een universum waarin elke zone zijn eigen kosmische wetten van tijd en ruimte heeft.
Klinkt ingewikkeld, maar omdat Vinge er zijn tijd voor neemt, wordt je als lezer langzaam maar zeker opgenomen in die visie en leer je bijvoorbeeld de 'Tines' - een hondenras dat in kleine roedels leeft en zo door hun gedeelde vermogens net zo intelligent en bekwaam als de mensheid is- door en door kennen.
Vinge gebruikt al deze invalshoeken om zijn goed tegen kwaad verhaal kracht bij te zetten en zorgt voor genoeg plottwist en verrassingen om de boel op tempo te houden.
Niet altijd het meest evidente boek, maar met veel plezier gelezen! ( )
  GertDeBie | Mar 22, 2021 |
Another 4.5 starworthy book. This book while not being nearly as excellent as Deepness is still great. If it were not for the rather hard to understand ending I would have definitely rated 5 stars ( )
  Andorion | Feb 6, 2021 |
On a mission seeking power, humans accidentally release an ancient entity intent upon enslaving or destroying all life. The universe's only hope lies in a human librarian, an unreliable construction of a Power, two alien traders, and rumor. A space opera with the feel of epic fantasy, fascinating aliens, incredible worldbuilding, and breathtaking battles. ( )
  Zoes_Human | Dec 26, 2020 |
A Fire Upon The Deep is summarized, perhaps, as old-school science fiction at its best. I’d previously read Vernor Vinge’s Rainbows End, which to this day I still think is one of the best depictions of what life in the near-ish-future is going to be like (less flying cars, more ubiquitous augmented reality), so I couldn’t pass up A Fire Upon The Deep when I stumbled across it at a church yard sale.

First things first – the book is big. Not just in length (a formidable 600 pages), but in concepts, ideas. AFUTD is packed to the gills with different things it wants to explore, any of one of which could’ve been a book unto itself. Most prominent is the concept of ‘zones of thought’ – an idea that the galaxy is stratified into different spheres. The farther one strays away from the galactic core, the more things like faster-than-light travel and superhuman intelligence are possible. These zones of thought effectively partition the galaxy – civilizations closest to the core are comparatively primitive than the ones further out, who are in turn dwarfed by the transhuman, almost Cthulhic entities on the galactic fringes. The difficulty in traveling between these zones, due to the diminishing effectiveness of faster-than-light travel, create a complex ecosystem of civilizations that exist and evolve alongside one another for millions of years.

But there is so… much… more. There are the alien Tines, one of the most creative extraterrestrial society’s I’ve ever read about. Vinge imagines a planet populated by a wolf-like species who merge their minds together through radio waves, creating individuals comprised of as many as eight different ‘bodies’. How such a society would work is beautifully detailed over the course of the novel, and Vinge deserves serious kudos for cooking up something so unique. He also explores scientific uplifting, transcendent intelligences, mind control, space warfare, medieval warfare, and the economics of interstellar trading. A computer scientist by background, you can tell Vinge enjoyed creating a realistic, galaxy-wide communication network, right down to bandwidth and encryption issues, whose listserv-like dispatches punctuate the novel.

Any attempt I could make to summarize the actual plot would be an injustice, but suffice it to say it’s a wonderful mix of adventure and drama and action. Vinge does an excellent job of building up the sheer scale of events in the novel – this is a book about the fate of the galaxy, a war waged over millions of years. And he also manages to preserve a sense of wonder, of mystery. Through the POV character of Ravna, we are able to appreciate that the characters exist in a universe that is vaster than any one person can comprehend. A difficult feat to pull off, but one successfully executed herein.

Similar to Rainbows End, Vinge very rarely spells out how things work, instead preferring to let the reader infer from context. This can be very rewarding – and very engrossing – though it also makes the book somewhat demanding to read. The reader must always be filling in the picture from clues scattered throughout the book, and it’s so packed with information that you daren’t let your eyes glaze over for a single paragraph. I did find it a bit more of a slog than Rainbows End, which is probably due to the characters. Unlike RE, which is set in near-future Earth with eminently relatable characters – A Fire Upon The Deep barely mentions Terra, and it has none of RE’s whimsy. The prose is dry, and the characters themselves are always just a little too detached to feel deep empathy with, more there to drive the plot.

If you’re up for something big and brimming with ideas, this is definitely worth your time. ( )
  pvoberstein | Dec 14, 2020 |
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Mr. Vinge writes what might be called thoughtful space opera. His setting is nothing less than the galaxy we call the Milky Way. I don't mean that he simply lets loose a few spaceships and has them chase one another among the stars to act out another old-fashioned shoot-'em-up plot. The human and nonhuman characters of "A Fire Upon the Deep" live in a complex galactic society that Mr. Vinge has worked out in admirable if economical detail, and the scope of his story is such that it requires just a background.
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Thousands of years hence, many races inhabit a universe where a mind's potential is determined by its location in space - from superintelligent entities in the Transcend, to the limited minds of the Unthinking Depths, where only simple creatures and technology can function. Nobody knows what strange force partitioned space into these 'zones of thought', but when the warring Straumli realm use an ancient Transcendent artefact as a weapon, they unwittingly unleash an awesome power that destroys thousands of worlds and enslaves all natural and artificial intelligence. Fleeing the threat, a family of scientists, including two children, are taken captive by the Tines - an alien race with a harsh medieval culture - and used as pawns in a ruthless power struggle. A rescue party, not entirely composed of humans, must free the children - and retrieve a secret that may save the rest of interstellar civilization.

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