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There There (2018)

av Tommy Orange

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Tommy Oranges debutroman brottas med ett komplext, smärtsamt förflutet och författaren har hyllats som en ny röst i den amerikanska samtidslitteraturen.  "En häpnadsväckande litterär debut!" Margaret Atwood
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A book that starts off as a rumble and grows to a powerful roar. I am still processing the amazing arc of this story. Tony Orange is an incredible writer. This is a book that will haunt you. ( )
  archangelsbooks | Mar 23, 2021 |
I chose There There on CD from the public library for a long Thanksgiving holiday drive. An ironic choice? Almost immediately I heard: In 1621, colonists invited Massasoit, the chief of the Wampanoags, to a feast after a recent land deal. Massasoit came with ninety of his men. That meal is why we still eat a meal together in November. Celebrate it as a nation. But that one wasn’t a thanksgiving meal. It was a land-deal meal. I could tell I'd be in for an interesting drive.

Each of the initial chapters introduces a different character in a large cast, and the connections between them isn't apparent until later. I was listening while driving so that I couldn't give a hundred percent of my attention to the book, and I had trouble keeping track of the characters. When they reappeared later (the return trip, for me) I'd forgotten a few.

Nevertheless some serious thoughts about the American identity crisis (native and otherwise) worked their way into my Thanksgiving holiday. I can't say I enjoyed the book, but neither did I want to stop listening. It may not be right for you if you detest violence and strong language, or if you want all the threads tied up by the end of the story. There There raised questions that I may be thinking about for a while. I'm glad I gave it a listen. ( )
  Linda_Louise | Jan 20, 2021 |
I thought this book was very well written. Vivid characterization. This book focuses on "not" belonging in society. Each character questions what it means to be Native American. I'd highly recommend it. ( )
  3CatMom | Dec 28, 2020 |
A lot of characters where their stories are told in short vignettes and whose lives intercept at the Oakland Powwow.

I hated this book. I found it to be an emotionally difficult read. Except for the children I did not find most of the characters to be people I would want to meet. Too many were trying to find an easy out without working to improve their lives. Of the adults I did find Opal, Jacquie, and Harvey trying to improve their lives. Some of the characters were just innocent bystanders--Edwin, Bill, Dene, Blue, and Thomas--trying to connect to their heritage and caught in the cross fire. The others I had no use for.

I would like to know what happens to each one though especially Orvil. He was a doll and trying to find his path to his heritage and where he fit in. He was also trying to teach his younger brothers. I hope they make it to adulthood without the baggage that followed so many of the adults in their lives. ( )
  Sheila1957 | Dec 15, 2020 |
I really do not know what to make of this book in the end. There are a lot of moving parts and a dark, unsettled history. These parts converge at the end, but the ending is neither cathartic nor satisfying, and maybe that is Orange's point? Either way, props to him for flummoxing me on this one. I suggest reading this in as few sittings as possible, so that you can keep all the characters straight. I am still waffling between 3.5-4 stars, but rounded up for the setting and upending of certain tropes present in Native American literature. ( )
  DrFuriosa | Dec 4, 2020 |
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Characters here do not notice connections that might offer meaning even though they tell endless details. For those of us who may want literature to confirm human journeys, (or even reject them), this is boring stuff.
 
There There signals an exciting new era for Native American fiction. Orange lends a critical voice that at once denudes the reality of cultural genocide while evoking a glimmer of encouragement.
 
The network of characters in There There proves dizzying, but the multivocal nature of the book is a purposeful, intelligent strategy. It offers a glimpse of an interconnected life, a world in which small stones don’t just sink to the bottom of the sea but change tides.
 
This is a trim and powerful book, a careful exploration of identity and meaning in a world that makes it hard to define either.
tillagd av ScattershotSteph | ändraVox, Constance Grady (Jul 2, 2018)
 
The idea of unsettlement and ambiguity, of being caught between two worlds, of living a life that is disfigured by loss and the memory of loss, but also by confusion, distraction and unease, impels some of the characters, and allows the sound of the brain on fire to become dense with dissonance. Orange’s characters are, however, also nourished by the ordinary possibilities of the present, by common desires and feelings. This mixture gives their experience, when it is put under pressure, depth and a sort of richness.
 

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In the dark times
Will there also be singing?
Yes, there will also be singing.
About the dark times.
--Bertolt Brecht

How can I not know today your face tomorrow, the face that is there already or is being forged beneath the face you show me or beneath the mask you are wearing, and which you will only show me when I am least expecting it?
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Just like the Indian Head test pattern was broadcast to sleeping Americans as we set sail from our living rooms, over the ocean blue-green glowing airwaves, to the shores, the screens of the New World.
Plenty of us are urban now. If not because we live in cities, then because we live on the internet. Inside the high-rise of multiple browser windows. They used to call us sidewalk Indians. Called us citified, superficial, inauthentic, cultureless refugees, apples. An apple is red on the outside and white on the inside. But what we are is what our ancestors did. How they survived. We are the memories we don’t remember, which live in us, which we feel, which make us sing and dance and pray the way we do, feelings from memories that flare and bloom unexpectedly in our lives like blood through a blanket from a wound made by a bullet fired by a man shooting us in the back for our hair, for our heads, for a bounty, or just to get rid of us.
They took everything and ground it down to dust as fine as gunpowder, they fired their guns into the air in victory and the strays flew out into the nothingness of histories written wrong and meant to be forgotten. Stray bullets and consequences are landing on our unsuspecting bodies even now.
...we know the smell of gas and freshly wet concrete and burned rubber better than we do the smell of cedar or sage or even fry bread—which isn’t traditional, like reservations aren’t traditional, but nothing is original, everything comes from something that came before, which was once nothing. Everything is new and doomed. We ride buses, trains, and cars across, over, and under concrete plains. Being Indian has never been about returning to the land. The land is everywhere or nowhere.
This there there. He hadn’t read Gertrude Stein beyond the quote. But for Native people in this country, all over the Americas, it’s been developed over, buried ancestral land, glass and concrete and wire and steel, unreturnable covered memory. There is no there there.
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