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Le cycle de Fondation, I : Fondation (urspr publ 1951; utgåvan 2009)

av Isaac Asimov (Författare), Jean Rosenthal (Traduction)

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One of the great masterworks of science fiction, the Foundation novels of Isaac Asimov are unsurpassed for their unique blend of nonstop action, daring ideas, and extensive world-building. The story of our future begins with the history of Foundation and its greatest psychohistorian: Hari Seldon. For twelve thousand years the Galactic Empire has ruled supreme. Now it is dying. Only Hari Seldon, creator of the revolutionary science of psychohistory, can see into the future--a dark age of ignorance, barbarism, and warfare--that will last thirty thousand years. To preserve knowledge and save mankind, Seldon gathers the best minds in the Empire--both scientists and scholars--and brings them to a bleak planet at the edge of the Galaxy to serve as a beacon of hope for future generations. He calls his sanctuary the Foundation. But soon the fledgling Foundation finds itself at the mercy of corrupt warlords rising in the wake of the receding Empire. And mankind's last best hope is faced with an agonizing choice: submit to the barbarians and live as slaves, or take a stand for freedom and risk total destruction.… (mer)
Medlem:Peralta_Lopes
Titel:Le cycle de Fondation, I : Fondation
Författare:Isaac Asimov (Författare)
Andra författare:Jean Rosenthal (Traduction)
Info:Folio (2009), 416 pages
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I've wanted to read Foundation for years. I had seen it mentioned in countless "best of" sci-fi lists, but reading it now, in 2018, I found myself just a little disappointed. I'm not sure why the reverie for this - one of Asimov's most popular works. The story is intriguing, driven forward by the ghost of Hari Seldon, a mathematician who develops a new form of prescience called "psychohistory". Using this prescience (a kind of twist on "big data analytics") he maps out the fall of a 12,000 year old Galactic Empire, and the rise of a new order of scientists who will reduce the 30,000 year dark ages to come down to 1,000 years of strife.

There are interesting sentiments that help propel this story. Salvor Hardin's statement that "violence is the last refuge of the incompetent," is intriguing and fashionable in today's political atmosphere. I like the use of "Space!" as an expletive. I'm highly captivated by the concept of psychohistory to guide a civilization along a path of millenia.

...but the telling of the tale is very dull. The narrative is overbearingly cliche and the dialogue is tired and dated. Much of the book consists of two people discussing the hijinks that are transpiring on some other planet, or how to avoid them.

Great concept here. Poor to moderate execution. Sorry, Mr. Asimov. ( )
  nakedspine | Nov 16, 2023 |
Tried reading it twice...still can't buy into it ( )
  hubrisinmotion | Nov 14, 2023 |
Writing a review for The Foundation is a bit daunting. There is just so much depth of social philosophy throughout that even after reading it, I keep thinking over the different parts and trying to see parallels between life in the books and current times. Bottom line, this is a book about deep thinking and about being able to predict the future of galaxies by coming to an understanding of the base unit of a single person. How does a person’s actions affect other actions and other people around them and so on? How does this then lead to group actions and possible revolutions? What are all the seemingly infinite combinations of all human action and interaction that leads to any kind of change and then what kind of changes does it take to lead to a specific possible future outcome? If you know the future, will it inevitably happen because it is the future and already takes into account any possible changes between present and future present? Or, is it possible that knowing the future can create even subconscious efforts at changing even the smallest pieces which would ultimately rearrange all of the future on a grand scale? When getting into ideas of predicting the future and how prescience effects time in general, things get a little confusing.

Time is a big topic in this novel. In fact, the book consists of 5 short stories that are all connected. From one story to the next, we jump across time and space to arrive at a new future point along the timeline of the Foundation. This, to me, was a very unique and interesting writing style. I have read plenty of books with flashbacks or that skip ahead to the future at the very end, but never one whose scope is so broad as to focus on the mechanisms of falling and rising societies and social systems over many, many generations. Of course, with this writing style, there isn’t enough time to really develop even any one character from each generation observed. So I will say that I missed a connection to character in the book, and yet I was ok with this because I understand that the idea of the novel was to transcend the idea of a single person standing alone and to view instead how single people across time and in different environments, interact with large scale changes to social systems.

The Foundation is of course a science fiction, and I have seen many elements from this story also show up in modern science fiction, however Asimov’s book is also in a niche of its own. Asimov’s aim with The Foundation was to bring back more of the “science” into science fiction. Instead of being more of the fantastical, The Foundation focuses purely on rumination of psychology— and to be extremely specific, psychohistory. The difference seeming to be that with psychohistory, psychology has been developed to a point that it can be used like a math form to determine with many different variables in many different equations, how history will be most probably played out. It deals with big ideas and shifting human movements across time. It looks into several different people’s lives, and yet not in a personal way, but more as a way to glimpse that generation’s view of their place in history. Even this choice gives the story more of a scientific tone, as it makes all characters appear through an objective lens instead of the more usual subjective point of view of fiction.

I wonder in the end if Hari Seldon created a sort of self fulfilling prophecy that allowed him to remain in control even across such stretches of time, or if in fact, he would have had no effect on the happenings at all. I lean more towards the first of the two, though I believe the main point is that human life goes through stages just as things do through time and these stages could potentially be easy to predict and to control at large because they are bound to happen simply through the nature of time and humanity.

Each phase of The Foundation through time seemed to use a different method of holding power and place: from religion, to trade, to knowledge. And yet in each time period, violence may have been considered by some entity, but the Foundation’s ultimate decision would always be to work with these other social constructs instead of devolving into war, which in the end would have only decimated lives and resources. This particular outlook is coined into a phrase used throughout the book from Salvor Hardin, “violence is the last refuge of the incompetent.” Seeing how later generations not only build upon what they know of Hari Seldon, but also on such philosophy as that held by Salvor Hardin, I feel that the book also indicates that Seldon provided the “foundation” for all the future changes, but it took a leader from each generation to cement Seldon’s ideals over time. Seldon truly seems to live on through all his followers he has created in the Foundation, and is even visually present in the novel from his time vault appearances. He may have said that the original quest of the Foundation was more of a place holder than anything, yet the preservation of knowledge across time was solely in the hands of the society he founded.

This book may sound a bit dry with the focus being so much more on the “science” and social parts as opposed to the “fiction,” but this is actually not the case. Even if none of the characters were particularly developed, the way in which they were able to manipulate the system to keep themselves in power, even at times it seemed impossible, was honestly amazing. I would liken some of the scheming (particularly in Hardin’s case) to Sherlock Holmes (the tv version that is, as I have yet to actually read Sherlock Holmes). Plans began to unfurl all of the sudden, quickly, and quite to my surprise.
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  rianainthestacks | Nov 5, 2023 |
Tan famoso que es este libro y no me ha parecido para tanto, ni mucho menos, No es que sea malo, que no lo es, pero no es para volverse loco. En realidad, más que un libro de ciencia ficción es uno de política-ficción. Son cinco relatos situados en otras tantas épocas distintas de la historia de la "Fundación", empezando por su origen. Los relatos se publicaron originalmente de forma independiente en diversas revistas, aunque parece claro que el autor tenía su idea unitaria en la cabeza. Según el prologuista, Asimov pretendía hacer una fábula de la historia de Occidente desde la caída del Imperio Romano hasta el Renacimiento. A mí el paralelismo me parece un tanto simplón, porque pensar que la diferencia entre la Edad Media y el Renacimiento es la sustitución del poder de los sacerdotes por el de los comerciantes no da para aprobar el examen de segundo de carrera.

Por lo demás, todos los relatos son muy similares: se presenta una situación de crisis (a partir del segundo, todas esas crisis habían sido anunciadas con cientos de años de antelación y precisión suiza por un matemático metido a "psicohistoriador" y luego elevado a la categoría de semidios, protagonista del primer relato) que es resuelta siempre satisfactoriamente por un personaje muy astuto que se impone mediante hábiles negociaciones a los brutos que les amenazan. Supongo que Asimov pretendía lanzar un mensaje pacifista, lo que está muy bien, pero hoy se me antoja algo burdo. Por lo demás, lo ha situado en los confines de una lejana galaxia a miles de años vista como lo podía haber situado en unas cuevas del este de África hace 15.000 años, o en cualquier otro tiempo o lugar. En fin, no está mal pero ahora mismo no tengo muchas ganas de leerme el resto de la trilogía.

La traducción, horrorosa. ( )
  caflores | Nov 1, 2023 |
This was the second time I read this book. I could not remember much of the first time (5 years ago) but I can infer that this second time around, I liked it much more. While I really want to find out more, during the last few chapters I started to lose interest although I cannot figure out why. ( )
  bramboomen | Oct 18, 2023 |
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Of whose Authentic Gray Hairs
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One of the great masterworks of science fiction, the Foundation novels of Isaac Asimov are unsurpassed for their unique blend of nonstop action, daring ideas, and extensive world-building. The story of our future begins with the history of Foundation and its greatest psychohistorian: Hari Seldon. For twelve thousand years the Galactic Empire has ruled supreme. Now it is dying. Only Hari Seldon, creator of the revolutionary science of psychohistory, can see into the future--a dark age of ignorance, barbarism, and warfare--that will last thirty thousand years. To preserve knowledge and save mankind, Seldon gathers the best minds in the Empire--both scientists and scholars--and brings them to a bleak planet at the edge of the Galaxy to serve as a beacon of hope for future generations. He calls his sanctuary the Foundation. But soon the fledgling Foundation finds itself at the mercy of corrupt warlords rising in the wake of the receding Empire. And mankind's last best hope is faced with an agonizing choice: submit to the barbarians and live as slaves, or take a stand for freedom and risk total destruction.

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