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Anelli nell'io. Che cosa c'è al cuore della coscienza? (urspr publ 2007; utgåvan 2010)

av Douglas R. Hofstadter

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Hofstadter's long-awaited return to the themes of Gödel, Escher, Bach--an original and controversial view of the nature of consciousness and identity. What do we mean when we say "I"? Can a self, a soul, a consciousness, an "I" arise out of mere matter? If it cannot, then how can you or I be here? This book argues that the key to understanding selves and consciousness is a special kind of abstract feedback loop inhabiting our brains. Deep down, a human brain is a chaotic soup of particles, on a higher level it is a jungle of neurons, and on a yet higher level it is a network of abstractions that we call "symbols." The most central and complex symbol in your brain or mine is the one we both call "I." But how can such a mysterious abstraction be real--or is our "I" merely a convenient fiction?--From publisher description.… (mer)
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Titel:Anelli nell'io. Che cosa c'è al cuore della coscienza?
Författare:Douglas R. Hofstadter
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I liked the idea of distributed consciousness. It reminds me of the idea of electron's position being a probability cloud where even though there's a small area where it's likely to be technically the probability is stretched out thinly to everywhere. Even though we are mostly in our brain there we are thinly stretched out to everything and everyone we have interacted with. ( )
  TeaTimeCoder | Dec 23, 2020 |
This is merely a re-hash of Hofstadter's justly famous Godel, Escher, Bach: An Eternal Golden Braid, with some ideas from Le Ton Beau de Marot thrown in but most of the fun stuff taken out; if you've read those, you don't need to read this. If you've only read GEB, then read this instead of Le Ton Beau de Marot unless you have a particular interest in the art/skill of translation.

This isn't a bad book, apart from the constant use of reference to the "dear reader", it's just redundant because of the above and not nearly as much fun as GEB.

Here's what it's about: minds - specifically what they are/where they come from. Hofstadter's thesis is very plausible to me, despite my disagreeing with some specific things he says. It seems like it might be scientifically testable, too. My beef with Hofstadter is that his research does not seem focused on testing what seems to be the crux axiom of his theory. I'm not sure off the top of my head to do it but Hofstadter has had since some time in the 1970s to think of a way...maybe it isn't testable after all, but if it isn't then it's just a waste of time and money.

Also Hofstadter HATES mosquitos because they bite him and I think that he subconsciously believes they have no minds simply because of this! ( )
  Arbieroo | Jul 17, 2020 |
I have too many things to say about this book to be able to put them inside a review, so I'll try to keep it only about the essentials.

This book gave me answers to questions I've been asking myself ever since I was a teenager. This changed the way I view reality at a fundamental level. I am now wholeheartedly on board with Hofstadters theory regarding consciousness and self. He makes the strongest cases I've ever been given about what our sense of self is and how consciousness arises inside humans. It also happens to fit perfectly with my own theories, which I've been toying with the past months.

This book is partly mathematics, partly science & linguistics but most of all is philosophical, but a brand of philosophy that's heavily grounded in reality by use of analogy. This is the best case I've seen yet for proving the feasibility of artificial general intelligence. I might add to this review after a few more days of pondering. ( )
  parzivalTheVirtual | Mar 22, 2020 |
Smart and well written, but a bit bland and meandering for Hofstadter's standards. ( )
  mrgan | Oct 30, 2017 |
Indeholder "Dedication", "A note from the Publisher", "Words of thanks", "Preface - An Author and His Book", " Facing the Physicality of Consciousness", " The Mirage", " A Shout into a Chasm", " From the Majestic Dolomites to Gentle Bloomington", " An Author and His Audience", " The Horsies-and-Doggies Religion", " A few Last Random Observations", " A Useful Youthfulness", "Prologue - An affable Locking of Horns", " Dramatis personæ: Plato and Socrates", "Chapter 1 - On Souls and Their Sizes", " Soul-Shards", " What Is It Like to Be a Tomato?", " Guinea Pig", " Pig", " Revulsion, Revelation, Revolution", " Reversion, Re-evolution", " The Mystery of Inanimate Flesh", " Give Me Some Men Who Are Stouter-souled Men", " Small-souled and Large-souled Humans", " Hattie the Chocolate Labrador", " Ollie the Golden Retriever", " Where to Draw that Fateful, Fatal Line?", " Interiority — What Has it, and to What Degree?", " The Gradual Growth of a Soul", " Lights On?", " Post Scriptum", "Chapter 2 - This Teetering Bulb of Dread and Dream", " What Is a "Brain Structure"?", " A Simple Analogy between Heart and Brain", " Can Toilet Paper Think?", " The Terribly Thirsty Beer Can", " Levels and Forces in the Brain", " Who Shoves Whom Around Inside the Cranium?", " Thermodynamics and Statistical Mechanics", " Thinkodynamics and Statistical Mentalics", "Chapter 3 - The Causal Potency of Patterns", " The Prime Mover", " The Causal Potency of Collective Phenomena", " Neurons and Dominos", " Patterns as Causes", " The Strange Irrelevance of Lower Levels", " A Hat-tip to the Spectrum of Unpredictability", " The Careenium", " Simmballism", " Taking the Reductionistic View of the Careenium", " Taking a Higher-level View of the Careenium", " Who Shoves Whom Around inside the Careenium?", " The Dance of the Simmballs", "Chapter 4 - Loops, Goals, and Loopholes", " The First Flushes of Desire", " A Soccer Ball Named Desire", " The Slippery Slope of Teleology", " Feedback Loops and Exponential Growth", " Fallacy the First", " Fallacy the Second", " Feedback and Its Bad Rap", " God, Gödel, Umlauts, and Mystery", " Savoring Circularity and Self-application", " The Timid Theory of Types", " Intellectuals Who Dread Feedback Loops", "Chapter 5 - On Video Feedback", " Two Video Voyages, Three Decades Apart", " Diary of a Video Trip", " Enigmatic, Emergent Reverberation", " Feeding "Content" to the Loop", " A Mathematical Analogue", " The Phenomenon of "Locking-in"", " Emergent New Realities of Video Feedback", "Chapter 6 - Of Selves and Symbols", " Perceptual Looping as the Germ of "I"-ness", " Varieties of Looping", " Reception versus Perception", " Mosquito Symbols", " Mosquito Selves", " An Interlude on Robot Vehicles", " Pondering Dogthink", " The Radically Different Conceptual Repertoire of Human Beings", " Episodic Memory", "Chapter 7 - The Epi Phenomenon", " As Real as it Gets", " Concrete Walls and Abstract Ceilings", " The Many-faceted Intellectual Grounding of Reality", " No Luck, No Soap, No Dice", " An Out-of-the-Blue Ode to My Old Friend Epi", " No Sphere, No Radius, No Mass", " Where the Buck Seems to Stop", " The Prime Mover, Redux", " God's Eye versus the Careenium's Eye", " I Am Not God", "Chapter 8 - Embarking on a Strange-Loop Safari", " Flap Loop, Lap Loop", " Seeking Strange Loopiness in Escher", " Seeking Strange Loops in Feedback", " Seeking Strange Loops in the Russellian Gloom", " Mr Berry of the Bodleian", " I Can't Tell You How Indescribably Nondescript It Was!", " Blurriness Buries Berry", " A Peanut-butter and Barberry Sandwich", " An Autobiographical Snippet", " Idealistic Dreams about Metamathematics", " Post Scriptum", "Chapter 9 - Pattern and Provability", " Principia Mathematica and its Theorems", " Mixing Two Unlikely Ideas: Primes and Squares", " Pattern-hunting", " People who Pursue Patterns with Perseverance", " Where There's Pattern, There's Reason", " Sailing the Ocean of Primes and Falling off the Edge", " The Mathematician's Credo", " No Such Thing as an Infinite Coincidence", " The Long Search for Proofs, and for their Nature", "Chapter 10 - Gödel's Quintessential Strange Loop", " Gödel Encounters Fibonacci", " The Caspian Gemstones: An Allegory", " A Tiny Spark in Gödel's Brain", " Clever Rules Imbue Inert Symbols with Meaning", " Mechanizing the Mathematician's Credo", " Miraculous Lockstep Synchrony", " Flipping between Formulas and Very Big Integers", " Very Big Integers Moving in Lock-step with Formulas", " Glimmerings of How PM Can Twist Around and See Itself", " Prim Numbers", " The Uncanny Power of Prim Numbers", " Gödelian Strangeness", " How to Stick a Formula's Gödel Number inside the Formula", " Gödel's Elephant-in-Matchbox Trick via Quine's Analogy", " The Trickiest Step", " An Elephant in a Matchbox is Neither Fish Nor Fowl", " Sluggo and the Morton Salt Girl", "Chapter 11 - How Analogy Makes Meaning", " The Double Aboutness of Formulas in PM", " Extra Meanings Come for Free, Thanks to You, Analogy!", " Exploiting the Analogies in Everyday Situations", " The Latent Ambiguity of the Village Baker's Remarks", " Chantal and the Piggybacked Levels of Meaning", " Pickets at the Posh Shop", " Prince Hyppia: Math Dramatica", " Analogy, Once Again, Does its Cagey Thing", " How Can an "Unpennable" Line be Penned?", " "Not" is Not the Source of Strangeness", " Numbers as a Representational Medium", "Chapter 12 - On Downward Causality", " Bertrand Russell's Worst Nightmare", " A Strange Land where "Because" Coincides with "Although"", " Incompleteness Derives from Strength", " Bertrand Russell's Second-worst Nightmare", " An Endless Succession of Monsters", " Consistency Condemns a Towering Peak to Unscalability", " Downward Causality in Mathematics", " Göru and the Futile Quest for a Truth Machine", " The Upside-down Perceptions of Evolved Creatures", " Stuck, for Better or Worse, with "I"", " Proceeding Slowly Towards the Bottom Level", " Of Hogs, Dogs, and Bogs", "Chapter 13 - The Elusive Apple of My "I"", " The Patterns that Constitute Experience", " Reflected Communist Bachelors with Spin 1/2 are All Wet", " Am I a Strange Marble?", " A Pearl Necklace I Am Not", " I Am My Brain's Most Complex Symbol", " Internalizing Our Weres, Our Wills, and Our Woulds", " I Cannot Live without My Self", " The Slow Buildup of a Self", " Making Tosses, Internalizing Bounces", " Smiling Like Hopalong Cassidy", " The Lies in our I's", " The Locking-in of the "I" Loop", " I Am Not a Video Feedback Loop", " I Am Ineradicably Entrenched...", " ...But Am I Real?", " The Size of the Strange Loop that Constitutes a Self", " The Supposed Selves of Robot Vehicles", " A Counterfactual Stanley", "Chapter 14 - Strangeness in the "I" of the Beholder", " The Inert Sponges inside our Heads", " Squirting Chemicals", " The Stately Dance of the Symbols", " In which the Alfbert Visits Austranius", " Brief Debriefing", " Soaps in Sanskrit", " Winding Up the Debriefing", " Trapped at the High Level", " First Key Ingredient of Strangeness", " Second Key Ingredient of Strangeness", " Sperry Redux", "Chapter 15 - Entwinement", " Multiple Strange Loops in One Brain", " Content-free Feedback Loops", " Baby Feedback Loops and Baby "I" 's", " Entwined Feedback Loops", " One Privileged Loop inside our Skull", " Shared Perception, Shared Control", " A Twirlwind Trip to Twinwirld", " Is One or Two Letters of the Alphabet?", " Pairsonal Identity in Twinwirld", " "Twe"-tweaking by Twinwirld-twiddling", " Post Scriptum re Twinwirld", " Soulmates and Matesouls", " Children as Gluons", "Chapter 16 - Grappling with the Deepest Mystery", " A Random Event Changes Everything", " Desperate Lark", " Post Scriptum", "Chapter 17 - How We Live in Each Other", " Universal Machines", " The Unexpectedness of Universality", " Universal Beings", " Being Visited", " Chemistry and Its Lack", " Copycat Planetoids Grow by Absorbing Melting Meteorites", " How Much Can One Import of Another's Interiority?", " Double-clicking on the Icon for a Loved One's Soul", " Thinking with Another's Brain", " Mosaics of Different Grain Size", " Transplantation of Patterns", "Chapter 18 - The Blurry Glow of Human Identity", " I Host and Am Hosted by Others", " Feeling that One is Elsewhere", " Telepresence versus "Real" Presence", " Which Viewpoint is Really Mine?", " Where Am I?", " Varying Degrees of Being Another", " The Naïve Viewpoint is Usually Good Enough", " Where Does a Hammerhead Shark Think it is?", " Sympathetic Vibrations", " Am I No One Else or Am I Everyone Else?", " Interpenetration of National Souls", " Halos, Afterglows, Coronas", "Chapter 19 - Consciousness = Thinking", " So Where's Consciousness in my Loopy Tale?", " Enter the Skeptics", " Symbols Trigger More Symbols", " The Central Loop of Cognition", "Chapter 20 - A Courteous Crossing of Words", "Chapter 21 - A Brief Brush with Cartesian Egos", " Well-told Stories Pluck Powerful Chords", " What Pushovers We Are!", " Teleportation of a Thought Experiment across the Atlantic", " The Murky Whereabouts of Cartesian Egos", " Am I on Venus, or Am I on Mars?", " The Radical Nature of Parfit's Views", " Self-confidence, Humility, and Self-doubt", " Morphing Parfit into Bonaparte", " The Radical Redesign of Douglas R. Hofstadter", " On "Who" and on "How"", " Double or Nothing", " Trains Who Roll", " The Glow of the Soular Corona", "Chapter 22 - A Tango with Zombies and Dualism", " Pedantic Semantics?", " Two Machines", " Two Daves", " The Nagging Worry that One Might Be a Zombie", " Consciousness Is Not a Power Moonroof", " Liphosophy", " Consciousness: A Capitalized Essence", " A Sliding Scale of Élan Mental", " Semantic Quibbling in Universe Z", " Quibbling in Universe Q", "Chapter 23 - Killing a Couple of Sacred Cows", " A Cerulean Sardine", " Bleu Blanc Rouge = Red, White, and Blue", " Inverting the Sonic Spectrum", " Glebbing and Knurking", " The Inverted Political Spectrum", " Violets Are Red, Roses Are Blue", " A Scarlet Sardine", " Yes, People Want Things", " The Hedge Maze of Life", " There's No Such Thing as a Free Will", "Chapter 24 - On Magnanimity and Friendship", " Are There Small and Large Souls?", " From the Depths to the Heights", " The Magnanimity of Albert Schweitzer", " Does Conscience Constitute Consciousness?", " Albert Schweitzer and Johann Sebastian Bach", " Dig that Profundity!", " Alle Grashüpfer Müssen Sterben", " Friends", "Epilogue - The Quandary", " Not a tall!", " The Pull and Pitfalls of Dualism", " The Lure and Lacunas of Nondualism", " Rainbows or Rocks?", " Thrust: The Hard Problem", " Riposte: A Soft Poem", " A Billion Trillion Ants in One's Leg ", " I Am a Strange Loop", "Notes", "Bibliography", "Acknowledgements", "Index".

Meget gennemarbejdet bog om bevidsthed og hvad der mon egentlig skal til for at noget er bevidst. ( )
  bnielsen | Sep 20, 2016 |
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Hofstadter's long-awaited return to the themes of Gödel, Escher, Bach--an original and controversial view of the nature of consciousness and identity. What do we mean when we say "I"? Can a self, a soul, a consciousness, an "I" arise out of mere matter? If it cannot, then how can you or I be here? This book argues that the key to understanding selves and consciousness is a special kind of abstract feedback loop inhabiting our brains. Deep down, a human brain is a chaotic soup of particles, on a higher level it is a jungle of neurons, and on a yet higher level it is a network of abstractions that we call "symbols." The most central and complex symbol in your brain or mine is the one we both call "I." But how can such a mysterious abstraction be real--or is our "I" merely a convenient fiction?--From publisher description.

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