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Mellan två världar (1982)

av Raymond E. Feist

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Fantasy. Fiction. Thriller. HTML:He held the fate of two worlds in his hands...
Once he was an orphan called Pug, apprenticed to a sorcerer of the enchanted land of Midkemia.. Then he was captured and enslaved by the Tsurani, a strange, warlike race of invaders from another world.
/> There, in the exotic Empire of Kelewan, he earned a new name??Milamber. He learned to tame the unnimagined powers that lay withing him. And he took his place in an ancient struggle against an evil Enemy older than time itse… (mer)
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I did not read Feist when these were being published, though I would likely have been the ideal audience in the late 80s. Some folks say these have aged poorly and are just indicative of certain era of fantasy writing. I'm not so sure that's the case, I think they may never have been that great.
First things first, Magician: Apprentice is the first *half* of a book, split due to length. I'm going to combine the reviews for this and Magician: Master and put the review on both. But, going into the book not knowing that can lead to a very disjointed experience at the abrupt ending.
Magician is telling the story of Pug, an orphaned farm boy in a relatively idealic fantasy castle/village who through the beneficence of those around him experiences a pretty pleasant life. Up to eventually being taken in as the titular magician's apprentice despite a relative lack of talent. While Pug is clearly intended to be the focus of this bildungsroman, he's missing from vast swaths of both this and the subsequent book. Possibly for the best. His young friend, Tomas, on the path to becoming a warrior is our other main character, followed by an ensemble cast of the usual suspects in this type of fantasy (ranger stand ins, a princess or two, children of nobility having to take on various levels of responsibility) who truth be told get a lot more page time than our supposed main characters. Our main source of conflict is...an invading army from another world with a superior command of magic. Which has some distressingly stereotypical depictions of probably southeast asian cultures form the time.
So why the relatively low rating from someone who is otherwise a huge fan of fantasy? Besides some technical problems (real frequent shifts in pov and tense, seemingly at random and without purpose) and a whole lot of telling rather than showing, its just not great? Its too sterotypical of high fantasy, too simple, even within its own time, not just through the lens of the fantasy we get these days. A lot of characters are clearly thinly veiled caricatures of Tolkein characters, as are some of the plot points. We even have a very duex ex machina, two dimensional, wizard who feels like a bad Gandalf impersonator, an elf queen (and really elvish society) that seems to be a direct lift as well. There are some really unnecessary early teen love triangles involving a princess that feels pulled from any number of YA fantasy of the era. There are massive time skips throughout the book...as in years...that not only rob of us seeing the events that could cause the characters to change and grow, but seem to not result in any actual dynamic character growth or change. A lot of things happen that we're told about after the fact, and the characters (besides growing much more powerful) don't change in any fundamental way. Tomas is the only character who seems even mildly changed by the titanic events he passes through, and even in that case the changes are somewhat cosmetic and certainly not as deep as they should be.
Some of the issues can be explained by the fact that this is essentially a (less than great) novelization of Feist's D&D games from the time. Midkemia was their homebrewed campaign setting. I didn't realize that until after reading, but as soon as I learned that a lot of things from the cardboard characters to the lack of dynamism, to the massive power jumps after ever time skip, all started to make a lot more sense.
What can we find that feels more positive about these two books? I can see some very early shades of the sort of political intrigue we'd later seen so much more masterfully done by George RR Martin. I think that the world building if handled with more depth and focused more on showing rather than telling, *could* have been really interesting. And there may be a lot more of that in the subsequent books in the series that focus on less godlike, overpowered characters. Especially if it was based on a D&D campaign, there should be plenty of ambitious world building that *could* be done. I'll likely only read the next two (since I got the first four from a box at my aunt's house), and hopefully there will be more of that. While I realize that this is intended for adult fantasy readers, or maybe YA at the earliest, I think that if targeted at even younger readers this isn't necessarily a bad introduction to fantasy. Honestly, I can't see reading this past my pre-teen years and being into it, but I think for that late elementary age reader really into fantasy these would be perfect. The violence and sexuality are very tame, as is the language, and I think a lot of the structural issues wouldn't be as much of a problem. I do think if marketed in that way it would benefit from the two books being broken into maybe four smaller books, but hey, let a kid feel accomplished for reading such a big book.
So yeah, give them to a kid as an intro to better stuff, they can have fun later discovering similarities to other works. ( )
  jdavidhacker | Aug 9, 2023 |
Érase una vez un huérfano llamado Pug, aprendiz de hechicero en la tierra encantada de Midkemia. Entonces fue capturado y esclavizado por los tsurani, una extraña y belicosa raza de invasores de otro mundo.
Allí, en el exótico Imperio de Kelewan, recibió un nuevo nombre, Milamber, y aprendió a domeñar los inimaginables poderes que borbotaban en su interior. Y tomó su lugar en un antiguo conflicto contra un perverso Enemigo, anterior al mismo tiempo.
  Natt90 | Feb 6, 2023 |
-3 similar names in one plotline, confusing
-poorly written women characters/romance
-Pug felt like a different person from the first book
plot was slow, but the book was getting better and better ( )
  Mandalor | Jun 21, 2022 |
I think this book was better than its predecessor/counterpart, Magician: Apprentice. So much happened in this book, from Pug's kidnapping to the magician's of this alien world discovery of Pug. Pug's journey throughout the alien land I found very interesting. Even though there weren't many "twists", the plot changes that did occur with Pug were rather large and important. I truly enjoyed reading the book, it wasn't a difficult read, I was still interested in the dull parts of the book, wanting to know what happen next and all that. My only complaint or questioning with the book was with (I'll try to say this without spoiling anything) Thomas and his journey. It got confusing at times, the little bits and pieces of it that I couldn't really seem to grasp holistically. ( )
  Jack_Henick | Nov 4, 2021 |
I read Magician: Apprentice, which was the first half of the story continued in this one, a while back and found it really disappointing. But I already had this volume, so I figured I might was well get around to finishing it. I think maybe this one was a bit better, in that it had some mildly interesting worldbuilding stuff once we got away from the Discount Tolkien World we started off in for a bit. But it still didn't do much for me. The pacing is deeply weird, there's a lot of telling when there should be showing, the plot's not super interesting even if there are a couple of cool ideal buried in in somewhere, and the characters are pretty flat. Well, except for the female characters. Those don't even rise to the level of flatness. They're basically zero-dimensional.

Yeah, I think we're going to have to chalk this up as yet another series whose popularity will have to remain mystifying to me. ( )
  bragan | Sep 25, 2021 |
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Fantasy. Fiction. Thriller. HTML:He held the fate of two worlds in his hands...
Once he was an orphan called Pug, apprenticed to a sorcerer of the enchanted land of Midkemia.. Then he was captured and enslaved by the Tsurani, a strange, warlike race of invaders from another world.
There, in the exotic Empire of Kelewan, he earned a new name??Milamber. He learned to tame the unnimagined powers that lay withing him. And he took his place in an ancient struggle against an evil Enemy older than time itse

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