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Pagans and Christians (1986)

av Robin Lane Fox

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"Religion and the religious life from the second to the fourth century A.D. when the gods of Olympus lost their dominion and Christianity, with the conversion of Constantine, triumphed in the Mediterranean world"--Jacket subtitle.
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I like the details…each story is told with evidence from many angles, giving a fuller picture of the events and people. ( )
  richardSprague | Mar 22, 2020 |
My second reading of this book does not very closely match my recall of the first reading. I "remembered" far more about Pagan resistance to Christianity, particularly to attacks on shrines both public and private. Either I imagined this material or it was in another book I read at near the same time. Fox gives an extensive examination of the ways in which Pagans experienced their gods: literature, art, private visions and dreams and oracles. He then traces the rise of Christianity, the conversion of Constantine and the resulting decline of Pagan practice. ( )
1 rösta ritaer | Mar 9, 2019 |
Robin Lane Fox, one of the most informed experts on Alexander, the ancient world, and gardening. He learns from plants, and studies the bone, stone, and symbols which made our world. ( )
  keylawk | May 29, 2017 |
Not quite what I was looking for: influences on Christianity: anything taken directly taken from paganism and Christianized, e.g., something detailed, such as how possibly Roman religious garb influenced Christian vestments. However, if I take it on its terms and am not too disappointed that it isn't what I hoped for, it's an amazing book: detailed history of both Christianity and paganism from the Gordians [3rd century] through Constantine [5th century]. I felt it was a bit similar to The Golden Bough, if not in structure, amount of detail on a similar subject--in the latter case ancient Celtic folkways and their influence on modern English [mostly rural] practice. Hidden away were what I was looking for here and there; also in the later chapters were Christian parallels with paganism. Paganism retained its vibrancy through the Age of Constantine and beyond. It took many, many years to disappear completely.

I enjoyed the discussion of the visions of The Shepherd of Hermas, which almost made it into the Christian canon of Scripture and how this book tied in with the pagan notions of oracles and visions. I regretted there was no discussion of the Council[s] at which books were admitted to or rejected from the eventual New Testament. I learned a lot about how the authority of the church was set up and also how Christian "overachievers" first set up monasticism. I enjoyed reading about Constantine's Good Friday sermon, which emphasized his Christian thinking, although he delayed baptism until his deathbed.

Recommended, but this detailed work does take concentration. ( )
  janerawoof | Sep 21, 2015 |
This is my third book by Robin Lane Fox and I read it through respect for his scholarship regarding the ancient world and curiosity as to how classical religion disappeared so completely (and Christianity flourished) in the lands of the ex Roman Empire.

He doesn't retreat from a complex subject, and evaluates the value of varied sources to build a slow and careful picture of events as they unfolded in the first three centuries after the birth of Christ. The overall work has a more academic feeling than for example his excellent "The Classical World" and it does require a fairly high reader commitment, but the reward is undoubtedly a better understanding of this major turning point in history.

The classical world system was breaking apart, and a new Christianity based world view was replacing it in Europe and the Middle East. It would later fade in the south when confronted by a militant Islam but continue grow throughout Europe and provide the basis for the first proto European states, not to mention the first European settlements in America.

He provides interesting contrasts between late classical religion and early Christianity showing for example the solidity of early Christianity with its bishops, scriptures, moral rectitude and discipline, contrasting it with a rather hazy and sleazy late classicism with its money making cults, sale of priest hoods, divine emperors and absence of guilt or an afterlife. The general decadence of classical religion was a world away from the centuries earlier works of Homer but as RLF shows,,the Odyssey and the Iliad were more like evidence of an ongoing religion rather than scriptures in themselves and they portrayed rather capricious gods that were not so straightforward as a single Christian divinity.

He relates the multitude of problems that afflicted the Late Empire such as inflation, corruption, barbarian invasions and a general decline in art with the 2nd and 3rd century inscriptions on shrines by local notables being replaced almost exclusively from the mid 3rd century by inscriptions by central Roman governors and high officials.

The appearance of the first Christian emperor (Constantine) in 340A.D. is seen as a major turning point with his attribution of his military victories to his belief in a Christian God - in fact in a rather similar fashion to the Classical emperors with respect to their own warlike Gods.

Overall I found this a worthwhile book that did need a good deal of patience. ( )
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