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The Cave and the Light: Plato Versus Aristotle, and the Struggle for the Soul of Western Civilization (utgåvan 2013)

av Arthur Herman (Författare), Paul Hecht (Berättare), Recorded Books (Publisher)

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A history of the influential rivalry between Plato and Aristotle traces the Western world's ongoing battle of ideas to their competing philosophies, demonstrating how their contrasting views on everything became the twin fountainheads of Western culture.
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Titel:The Cave and the Light: Plato Versus Aristotle, and the Struggle for the Soul of Western Civilization
Författare:Arthur Herman (Författare)
Andra författare:Paul Hecht (Berättare), Recorded Books (Publisher)
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The Cave and the Light: Plato Versus Aristotle, and the Struggle for the Soul of Western Civilization av Arthur Herman

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Wow, this is a book that someone has probably already used the word "magisterial" to describe; and it deserves it. This is a
This definitely goes in the 're-read' stack.

I was actually quite surprised to find out that Dr. Herman is a fellow at the Hudson Institute (look it up if you don't know), and this kind of leapt out in the last chapter. There are some conclusions drawn there that strike me as... dubious. (E.g. that the reason WWII ended the depression was because of pent of dynamism/productivity just waiting to be unleashed, and that post-New Deal government intervention had little or nothing to do with this, seemingly ignoring the glaring fact that government spending on the war effort was the biggest intervention of all; fan or not of such government activity, it seems a jarring misapprehension.)

That said, I learned a lot from the book, it has lead me to already buy several books referenced (Discourses, Nicomachean Ethics, etc.) and to put several more on my to-read list (I might actually get around to reading Road to Serfdom now.)


Also, there were a few garbled translations of physics (I forget exactly what... something re: elections) and the description of the formula for entropy (W is the number of states, not the probability of states. And it should be a lower-case k.) You, potential reader, will not suffer any loss from this; I care because physics is my area :)
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  dcunning11235 | Aug 12, 2023 |
This is an impressive work that covers the span of western civilization’s foundations from Socrates to the current day. Arthur Herman has presented a historical tour that guides the reader through the in a back-and-forth between philosophy's two godfathers: Plato and Aristotle. The pure forms of thought by Plato versus the practical vision of Aristotle. The two have been in a back-and-forth influence throughout thousands of years of western history and he shows at every stage how they have shaped and guided our course of history I enjoyed the work because it brought to life many events of history in a way that was accessible, understandable, and interesting. Accessible for those without a philosophy or history background but it helps. I highly recommend. ( )
  kropferama | Jan 1, 2023 |
Up to Hegel and Marx, the book is wonderful. The right-wing tendencies of Mr. Herman then are unveiled and after that is a sliding path culminating with the apotheosis of Ayn Rand> I did not expect to have listed with Immanuel Kant and Hegel. Also, Marcuse was omitted. Too bad, the first 2/3 are very well written and generally balanced. ( )
  Lapsus16 | Jul 16, 2022 |
Like many sweeping overviews of centuries of history, there is a lot of generalization in this book. Whole, complicated sections of history are reduced to this vs that black and white descriptions, which definitely becomes more noticeable as the book gets closer to modern times. That said, the framework provides an interesting way to think about both the ideas of Plato and Aristotle as well as how those ideas can be used to move humanity in directions both good and bad. ( )
  Jthierer | Feb 15, 2022 |
The Cave and the Light: Plato Versus Aristotle, and the Struggle for the Soul of Western Civilization by Arthur Herman is a detailed account of historical philosophy in Western civilization. Herman earned his PhD from John Hopkins University. He has taught at several universities including Georgetown. Herman also won the Pulitzer Prize for his book Gandhi and Churchill: The Epic Rivalry That Destroyed an Empire and Forged Our Age.

Western philosophy with its roots deeply set in ancient Greece and names familiar to all: Socrates, Plato, and Aristotle. It's modest beginnings with Socrates volunteering to drink hemlock as it is better to suffer a wrong than inflict it. His faithful student carries on and Plato keeps Socrates “alive” in his dialogs. It is Plato's student that rises and breaks from him: Aristotle. The painting The School in Athens by Raphael shows the two great philosophers, center stage among many other philosophers. Plato is pointing to the heavens showing that all perfection, all knowledge and virtue, comes from above. Aristotle, pointing to the earth all knowledge is experienced. The other philosophers are discussed in the book, but clearly the two who made the greatest impact in the West were Plato and Aristotle.

From Greece, we are taken to Rome and to early Christianity and through Medieval Europe. There is a battle between Aristotle and Plato. Plato worked well into the early thinking of the Church, but Aristotle did not fit as well but provided a realistic description of earth. Plato's perfection in heaven and corruption on earth fit well with Christianity. Aristotle was science orientated. The story continues through the Middle Ages and into the Enlightenment. The French Revolution and Rousseau, all leave their mark on history and the story expands to Mill, Hegel, and Marx Then Modern times bloom in science with Darwin, Maxwell, and Einstein. Plato and Aristotle move through Western history competing for dominance only hitting a speed bump at Nietzsche, before moving ahead again. It moves through the rise of America and two bloody world wars to the current world situation. All these events and all this this history are connected back to a thought experiment of shadows on a cave wall.

The Cave and the Light is an outstanding book covering the history of Western Philosophy. I have highlighted and noted more passages in this book than I have another book since graduate school. My background in philosophy mostly limited to political philosophy as and undergraduate and graduate student. I was pleasantly surprised to see an accurate portrayal of Machiavelli and that his support for a republic as well as his major work The Discourses on Livy, rather than the basic “ends justify the means” of the Cliff Note version of The Prince. The writing flows well,everything is connected, and concise. Herman provides sixty-seven pages of notes and a very useful eighteen pages of bibliography. This is an excellent read and reference book for those interested in Western Philosophy . Although it is not needed a basic background in history and philosophy is helpful. The Cave and the Light is a must read book: Five stars. ( )
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